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The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones?
Topic Started: Feb 2 2005, 08:00 PM (156,020 Views)
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Aug 7 2011, 05:45 PM
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Nice one azkal! :thumb:
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Aug 7 2011, 08:05 PM
Nice one azkal! :thumb:


THANKS AVB ! :armycool:


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Considering what's happening to America right now with regards to it's present problems, they're hands are tied up and China may take advantage of these situations..

The US is already getting the pressure from China for them to look after their investments, America right now is in NO position to get engage with any kind of Conflict, much more with China.. The only thing they can do to help the Philippines in case conflict arises in WPS is for them to supply/sell us with Military Hardware's that we need to protect ourselves, even then there's no guarantee that they can/will give us what we want...? :dunno:

This will be the possible likely scenario and I don't think the US Congress will sacrifice their Country's inner interests just to save us, there's high provability that they will not intervene directly for us against China, they (US) may just be oblige to support the Philippines because of the MDT, like how they do it with TAIWAN.

Regardless of all these, I still believe the US may/can help the Philippines behind the scenes in case a shooting war with China in WPS breakout, through Country Allies like JAPAN, Australia maybe INDIA that don't fancy China that much.... Maybe the recent Military Naval exercise in WPS/SCS of JAPAN and Australia with the US is meant for something like this scenario.... :armywink:
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Below are some quoted articles and reports from several sites regarding joint naval exercises near/around Spratlys which is an obvious SHOW OF FORCE by other nations.

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There is no doubt that the exercises were a calculated US show of force. As Mullen was on his way to China, the US, Japan and Australia held their FIRST-EVER joint naval exercise in the South China Sea, in waters near Brunei. Last Friday, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia had an 11-day drill with American warships in the same area.


Notice that this is the first-ever joint naval exercises of the US, Japan and Australia. The three major countries who expressed condemnation and support for the Philippines on China's aggression in the Spratlys. It seemed that this "emergency" exercises is directly connected to the tension.

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The United States and Australia are conducting LARGE-SCALE joint military exercises across Australia amid growing tension between Southeast Asian countries and China over territorial claims in the South China Sea...
...Military experts in Australia say that the drills are apparently a warning to China, which has been increasing its presence in the South China Sea.


This is why I strongly believed that lots of red lights are turned on already. This issue in the Spratlys takes only a small spark which can turn into a huge wild fire. Major nations don't want this and they are doing their best to try to stop it because either way, the world will be affected, whether they support the Philippines or not.
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militarily speaking, the spratly's are gaining tension, but through actual publicity there really is not much attention being paid to the dispute.
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Australia's Antarctic claim 'at risk'
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Australia holds the largest claim to Antarctica but risks losing it in any race to unlock the frozen continent's potentially vast mineral and energy resources, an influential thinktank said Monday.
With global interest in the icy southern region growing, the Lowy Institute has warned Canberra against complacency when it comes to its claim, which covers 42 percent of Antarctica, an area roughly three-quarters the size of Australia.
"Australia has limited Antarctic presence and capability, and positions its policy in terms of science and environmental management rather than national security," Lowy's national security fellow Ellie Fogarty said in a paper.
"This raises questions about its ability to preserve its sovereignty claim."
A global treaty bans resource exploitation in Antarctica but the prohibition becomes reviewable in 2048, and some states may then decide to withdraw from it given the continent's mineral deposits.
These include coal seams, manganese, iron and uranium, while Antarctica's forecast oil reserves are estimated as among the largest in the world after Saudi Arabia and Venezuela.
Fogarty argues that Australia cannot adequately patrol its claim, lacking the kind of ski-planes it needs to reach some areas and without an ice-breaking ship in the region.
In addition, a recently opened airbase near Australia's Casey Station and the leasing of a wheeled Airbus 319 for intercontinental flights has not been as successful as hoped, because the plane is unable to bring in heavy equipment and is often diverted to land at the American McMurdo base in New Zealand-claimed territory.
At the same time, other nations such as Russia and China are unapologetically increasing their efforts in Antarctica, including in the 5,800,000 square kilometre Australian Antarctic Territory (AAT).
"There are even reports that Kunlun Station, established on the AAT's Dome Argus, features a sign stating 'Welcome to China,' implying Chinese territoriality and denial of Australia's claim," the Lowy paper said.
"Antarctica: Assessing and Protecting Australia's National Interests" urges Canberra to push for international inspections of all other nations' stations and the modernisation of Canberra's three outposts.
Australia is one of seven nations that have claimed territory in Antarctica. It established the first permanent base on the continent at Mawson in 1954.


hahaha.. naku pati antartica pala planung kunin nila.. may gosh!! they are challenging australia...
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US urged to boost PHL military amid Spratlys dispute
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08/08/2011 | 10:13 PM


A key official of the Heritage Foundation, a Washington D.C.-based think tank, exhorted the United States’ policymakers to “help provide the Philippines the military wherewithal to withstand Peoples’ Republic of China pressure."


More of the article here.
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http://www.gmanews.tv/story/228804/nation/...pratlys-dispute

A key official of the Heritage Foundation, a Washington D.C.-based think tank, exhorted the United States’ policymakers to “help provide the Philippines the military wherewithal to withstand Peoples’ Republic of China pressure."

Walter Lohman, director of the Asian Studies Center of the Heritage Foundation, said in a “WebMemo" that the U.S. “may very well find itself in a position where it cares more about the security of the Philippines" than the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).

The policy commentary comes less than three weeks after the U.S. Coast Guard turned over a Hamilton class warship to the Philippines. The Philippines bought the 115-meter cutter for about P450 million with funds from the Malampaya natural gas project royalties.

Lohman acknowledged ASEAN as “the most logical, neutral forum for regional diplomacy," but he also criticized it as a multilateral grouping that “consistently wins on engagement and loses on substance."

“That is not a formula can trust with its interests," according to Lohman.

Lohman urged U.S. officials to pursue “more direct avenues… which prudent use of ASEAN Forums can supplement."

“America’s principal interest in the South China Sea is freedom of navigation, and its most effective instrument in this regard is the U.S. Navy," Lohman stressed.

He said ASEAN has “deeply ambivalent" stance about China’s ascendance as a regional power and affects the regional group’s effectiveness in addressing conflicting territorial disputes in the South China Sea.

Lohman also disparaged the ASEAN’s Bali agreement, forged only last July, as a set of confidence-building measures that produced only “meager results" and conceded to China’s approach to “vociferously" reject multilateral solutions.

“All the 2002 [Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea] agreement did was provide the opportunity to set aside ASEAN’s disagreements with China for the cause of broader, lucrative economic engagement. The July 2011 Bali guidelines simply kick the can down the road again. And for this, ASEAN Secretary General Surin Pitsuwan called it an “historic" achievement," Lohman opined.

He also noted that effectiveness of ASEAN is also affected by the fact that its chairmanship is rotated “through a number of cautious and/or China-deferential countries, such as Cambodia, Brunei, Burma and Laos."

The Heritage Foundation official advised America to “keep its alliance network front and center" and urged U.S. officials to “look for ways to expand bilateral strategic partnerships, with Vietnam and India in particular." — ELR/KBK, GMA News
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Aug 8 2011, 11:06 PM
US urged to boost PHL military amid Spratlys dispute
GMANews.tv
08/08/2011 | 10:13 PM


A key official of the Heritage Foundation, a Washington D.C.-based think tank, exhorted the United States’ policymakers to “help provide the Philippines the military wherewithal to withstand Peoples’ Republic of China pressure."


More of the article here.

I dont know, but i like the idea for sure. Although i kindda doubt it since the US is in debt crisis again. And china have already told the americans that their happy years are over, and that Yuan should now replace the US dollar as our worldwide currency!
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China is now dictating the americans to cut their military spending:

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The chief of the General Staff of the People's Liberation Army, Chen Bingde, told reporters he thought the U.S. should cut back on defense spending for the sake of its taxpayers. He was speaking during a joint news conference in which he traded barbs with visiting U.S. counterpart Adm. Mike Mullen.

"I know the U.S. is still recovering from the financial crisis," Chen said. "Under such circumstances, it is still spending a lot of money on its military and isn't that placing too much pressure on the taxpayers?

"If the U.S. could reduce its military spending a bit and spend more on improving the livelihood of the American people ... wouldn't that be a better scenario?" he said.


http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2011/08/...ctating-america


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Well the americans can always just drop off their warships and other military assets in the philippines, and park 'em there for now so the filipinos can be trained to operate them easier. Less money for the american taxpayers to spend if they do so hehe.

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