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The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones?
Topic Started: Feb 2 2005, 08:00 PM (156,021 Views)
israeli
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China sea claims threat to Asia peace: Manila
(AFP) – 7 hours ago


MANILA — China's bold claims of control over the South China Sea are one of the biggest threats to peace in Southeast Asia, Philippine Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario warned Friday.


More of the article here.

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The threat concerns not only the rival claimants to the hotly contested area, but also all other entities using the waters for shipping, he said in a speech at a Manila university.

Chinese naval vessels have fired warning volleys at Filipino fishermen, harassed an oil exploration vessel and put up markers on Philippine waters this year after China outlined its "9-dash claim" to the sea in 2009, he said.

"If Philippine sovereign rights can be denigrated by this baseless claim, many countries should begin to contemplate the potential threat to freedom of navigation in the South China Sea," he said.

"The imperative to speak frankly was borne out of an enormous sense of exigency and urgency... to one of the greatest threats to the stability of our progressive Southeast Asian neighbourhood."


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Del Rosario repeated calls for UN arbitration on the disputes and for all claimants to jointly develop disputed sections, while asserting Manila's sovereign right to explore for oil and gas deposits on its own in the sea's Reed Bank section.

The Philippine energy department announced plans this week to auction off areas of the South China Sea for oil exploration, despite worsening territorial rows with China, which prefers bilateral talks on the disputes.
"To secure peace is to prepare for war." - Carl Von Clausewitz
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Zero wing
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They came any threats they want if they attack the whole world will destroy them they too afraid to face us in the UN but they act so big when making threats on it comes to force what brain dead stupid people the Chinese are if so then fight us in the UN tribunal hey were that chincom guy in our forum anyway? come on awol geek defend your beloved china? we should respond to this!!!
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actually , china has everything to lose if they act violently, their export-dependent economy will grind to a stop plus finally the philippine congress will wake up from their stupidity and finally increase the Armed forces budget to $5 -$10 billion dollars a year. Alam mo naman ang pinoy- they act in the last 2 minutes hehe :lollol: ..... blessing in disguise. bring it on !


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naku po.. ung mga last minute purchase ng phil. govt. malaking prob yan.. bka ang bilhin nyan ung obsolete and sbstandard tulad nung aftermath ng ondy ung binili na rescue boat walang kwenta.. but kaya natahimik na un.. let just pray guys that the world will be aware of the situation in spratly.. i think next move ng china is to improve there control in spratly.. kasi ang reason nila ang pinas daw ai nag improve ng naval base nila sa conflict zone.. wala tayong matatakbuhan nito.. hays!!! where to left behind in terms in defense.. how i wish na mag increase ang defense spending natin from 8bil every year maging 10-15bil.. para atleast may improvement.. and legalize the FOI law para sa transparency..
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long article but worth reading :thumb:

The U.S. Cannot Rely on ASEAN in the South China Sea


http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2...cy-on-East-Asia
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Nice thanks for the link Frenzy.

Well, ASEAN has no choice but to try harder and keep china away from any access to own the whole WPS. We simply cannot afford to lose it otherwise, the philippines will be f--ked. Because of all the claimants, only the philippines are actually really closer to the spratlys, and are now relying from it's oil/fuel resources. Never mind the rest of the ASEAN as they are already have better economies than the philippines.

The US meanwhile should remain faithfull to the philippines no matter what happend. Although the philippines should not really rely heavily to the US military help in case of the worst scenario happens. Filipinos should at the same time look for other military sources as a Plan B in case the US could not provide all the necessary military assets.

For now, keep the chinese at the bay, talk about diplomacy and how to strengthen their economies. In short, keep talking about peace while we drill and drill, and while we upgrade our military capabilities.
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I can't agree with you more! The US really have no choice but to help and arm us to the teeth really, us to what Sec. Del Rosario said in order for the US to have another stronger Ally in SE Asia WPA.

At the same time a plan B should be in the works as well just in case...
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I dont know if the UN will really react if china sinks one of our ships. Maybe yes or maybe no.

We got to remember when the chinese have massacred those 60+ vietnamese, the UN did not really react. Correct me if im wrong. Thanks!
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I dont know if the UN will really react if china sinks one of our ships. Maybe yes or maybe no.

We got to remember when the chinese have massacred those 60+ vietnamese, the UN did not really react. Correct me if im wrong. Thanks!

Maybe yes, maybe no.

Well again for me, maybe because the situation then is different from now, because Vietnam and China is still at war at that time called the Third Indochina war that lasts till 1991. The Johnson South reef skirmish in 1988 was considered a short battle/skirmish that includes navy ships from both countries that happened in Spratlys and still connected with the on-going war at that time. The ASEAN and the UN is already involved and has been on the negotiating table already.

The situation now is different because there's no on-going war and most probably there are new UN laws that have been added and enacted (which includes UNCLOS which only came to force in 1994) now which were not in force at that time. This is about sovereign claims by few neighboring countries.

But then again, I don't have good knowledge of these laws, or if the UN will involve itself if something arises or how Manong Sam will "defend" us. Only time will tell but one thing's for sure, all eyes are on us at this moment, and red lights are on.
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