Opitmal

Jan 16 2005, 09:22 PM

what will happen to us if we junk the MDT?  consequences?? 

bombeat

Jan 17 2005, 05:55 PM

nasabi mo lang yan maniego dahil amboy ka at empleyado ng mga kano...ano naman ang bigay nila sa atin kung di mga bulok na gamit

at di naman sila ang biggest contributor sa tsunami kungdi ang mga europeans, napilitan lang silang bumigay ng mas malaking tulong dahil binira sila sa UN...

mga ungas

Pendejo

Jan 17 2005, 08:58 PM

Opitmal

Jan 16 2005, 09:22 PM

what will happen to us if we junk the MDT?  consequences?? 

The present state of our defenses is a direct consequence of terminating the bases agreement. The balance of power in the South China Sea would have been kept in check if the US still had a major presence.

If you ask me, it had long been a leftist conspiracy abetted by like thinking legislators and politicians who were interested in nothing more but votes. We are fighting a global war against terrorism yet our laws prevent us from accepting help when offered.

Korea, Germany, Japan have no sovereignty problems with a US presence on their soil. Singapore does not mind if US warships dock and replenish. Heck, even the US does not mind having the Luftwaffe operate fighter training aircraft on US soil and airspace.

We kicked the US out of our country, the ingrates we are, now here we are pissing in the wind with our pants around our ankles, secretly hoping the Americans would be back while many of us wish and dream for defense systems we should have had while we could have basked under the protective mantle of the 7th Fleet and 13th Air Force presence in the Philippines.

I do not believe we gained points on sovereignty when the US bases were scrapped. We actually lost our prestige and international standing when we rendered ourselves naked defense-wise. Yet our legislators continue to posture like we are some big shot country.

There is no such thing as a free lunch. We made our bed, we sleep in it.

That is why I do not wish that the US would give us this, or that. It makes me sound like I'm screaming "Yankee Come Back!"

But then again, the truth hurts. Who was it who said he would rather have a country run like hell by Filipinos. He got what he wished for.

I see our country as a volcano waiting to explode with all the clowns in congress and politicians performing on a stage on the crater.

This country needs a total reboot, a new operating system. Our constitution guarantees we will always have corruption, patronage politics and a steady decline towards banana republic status. The same constitution guarantees a culture of indifference with an undisciplined society. We will continue to have an irresponsible media, a meddling church and widening gap between the rich and the poor. Educational standards will continue to decline. Our constitution guarantees we will have more leftist front organizations in congress as party list representatives. Our constitution guarantees t hat land reform will lie dead in the water. Heck, it even guarantees that squatters can take over your property. More and more Filipinos will continue to leave our shores. We have no more nurses, our doctors are studying to be nurses abroad.

Don't you find it strange that it is always "NO!" for charter change? Who mouths the call for anti-chacha? Natural, yung mga kaliwa.

Flipzi may be oozing with optimism about our country, i don't blame him at all. Singa Lion may be so tactless when he lambasts our culture and societal norms, yet the truth stares us in the face. Rallion worries about brigade commanders staging a coup, my gosh, Oakwood was led by Captains and Lieutenants. In many god forsaken countries, you have NCOs leading coups. I read the next exercise being led by the Top 3.

I remember my earliest postings about conversion and absolute corruption in the military. I posted in detail yet got lambasted as a leftist and sower of intrigue. Would you believe some people even asked me to show proof. Two weeks later, Major General Garcia became a household word. Many of us continue to be in denial.

We are not going to have all the fancy aircraft, warships, and defense systems everybody has been dreaming about here until we get our house in order. How dare we talk about external defense when we cannot even handle the internal security and destabilization taking place. Our enemy is not Red China. It is ourselves.

It is a cycle that takes place every three years, elections, elections, patronage politics, political debts, more pork. More corruption. Every three years. We are on the way down...unless a total change happens and we go back to the basics with a complete reboot and remake of our system. We will have a civil war.

... Joma Sison, Jalandoni, Ka Roger and all of them are laughing at us.

zeroalpha

Jan 18 2005, 01:09 AM

i have my issue of time magazine here , the largest contributor to tsunami victims is australia with 800 million US, japan with 500m US only has 350 million in pledges...

countries who provided military assets include australia, singapore, japan, france, malaysia and many others...

Pendejo

Jan 18 2005, 08:15 PM

zeroalpha

Jan 18 2005, 01:09 AM

i have my issue of time magazine here , the largest contributor to tsunami victims is australia with 800 million US, japan with 500m US only has 350 million in pledges...

countries who provided military assets include australia, singapore, japan, france, malaysia and many others...

The on going relief effort has more than enough cash. What will be essential is reconstruction and recovery assistance to bring the disaster stricken areas up on their feet.

Last I heard the US is carrying the brunt of the relief effort with 50 helicopters and air lifters in addition to sea lift.

Quote:

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Federal Robert K LCDR (VFA-2)
[mailto:robert.federal@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:58 PM

Subject: hard work...

Thanks so much for all the emails....I'm so behind on answering all of them.

I'm still aboard the ship, but have a little bit more of an idea of what's
expected:

Our squadron (and the others I believe) have broken ourselves into 5-man
working teams -- about the number of people they can squeeze onto a
helicopter. We have put together about 30 of these teams from our squadron,
and I'm the team leader for #9. Assuming we keep up the pace of getting a
team ashore every other day, I'll be on deck in about a week. From the guys
who have made it ashore, most of the work is non-stop unloading supplies
from the big-wing cargo carriers (C-130's, etc.) staging them, and then
loading up the helos as fast as they can so that they may ferry them deeper
into the country. Each team goes ashore for a full day of labor and then
returns with the last helos to the ship before sunset.

Our helo guys are working their asses off.
A good friend of mine from high school is actually a pilot in one of the two
helicopter squadrons we have aboard. I ran into him in the wardroom between
meals a couple of days ago, and he was visibly exhausted from being in the
cockpit for seven hours straight. I heard he appeared on CNN during a brief
interview within the past few days. Mark Leavitt -- great guy. His and
other friends' stories are very sobering. The number of orphans they saw is
just crushing.

One day, a 737 carrying supplies hit a water buffalo during landing roll
out, tearing up much of the landing gear as it skid to a stop in the middle
of the runway. Everyone was ok (except for the animal), but the single
landing strip was now obstructed, preventing any more supplies from
arriving. Pushing and pulling the huge aircraft off to the side was futile.
Eventually, someone back here on the ship thumbed open the F/A-18 operators
manual, looked inside the front cover and found the phrase, "for any
aircraft emergencies, please call Boeing at 1-800-12......". He picked up
the satellite phone, called the number, and at 4am Seattle time, was met
with, "Hello, this is Boeing emergency services, how can I help you?"

"Ah, yes...I've got a 737 that hit a water buffalo."

"Is this your 737?"

"Uh...not really."

"Ok...well, what exactly is the problem?"

"Well the landing gear was trashed and we can't push or pull it off the
runway."

"I see...I think I can help you...."

...And he did. Our folks got him in touch with the folks on site at the
runway, had the equipment put in place to lift the behemoth, and start
getting it out of the way. I believe the cargo planes should be back in
business this morning.


In the meantime -- and I'm not sure you all realized this -- the entire rest
of the airwing is essentially grounded. The hangar bay is stuffed with
planes, and what jets are left up on the flight deck are tightly packed into
clusters to make as much room for the helos as possible. Our deck is used
as the gas station for all the US helos working in this area. And it's full
service -- helos land, keep their rotors engaged, and a fuel hose is run up
to them. Ten minutes later, they're removing the chocks and chains and
returning to Bandar Aceh for more supply runs.

Unlike my last deployment, I'm not anywhere close to the people who make
decisions out here; so I'm like everyone else wondering how long we're going
to stay out here doing this. But, if I were, I'd think that the decision of
when to leave would not be based on keeping our homecoming schedule. As
long as we're saving lives, I don't think we're going to leave unless we're
relieved by another US command structure which can provide at least the same
airlift capacity. Those of you who are Navy friends of mine I'm sure are
wincing because you're familiar with all the CQ currency issues which are
certainly going to become an issue at some point. Everyone is out of the
7-day window as of today, i.e.

Joe Barnes, a friend of mine who spent his day ashore humping bags of rice
yesterday, said a Red Cross worker came up to him and thanked him for the
lives the Americans had saved. Sometimes, after a helo drops off a load of
supplies at a remote village, they take onboard badly injured men, women,
and children -- whatever they can carry -- and bring them back to the Red
Cross folks at the airfield. Some of these people wouldn't have survived
without the medical attention they received at Bandar Aceh. Because of
stories like that, I feel it would be a grave mistake for us to leave just
to make it home "on time" -- politcally and morally.

For the time being, I'm just like all of you -- sitting on my hands, wishing
I could do something.

I'll try to answer as many emails as possible. And I'll be sure to keep you
informed on what's going on out here.

Kelly

Pendejo

Jan 17 2005, 08:58 PM

Opitmal

Jan 16 2005, 09:22 PM

what will happen to us if we junk the MDT?  consequences?? 

The present state of our defenses is a direct consequence of terminating the bases agreement. The balance of power in the South China Sea would have been kept in check if the US still had a major presence.

If you ask me, it had long been a leftist conspiracy abetted by like thinking legislators and politicians who were interested in nothing more but votes. We are fighting a global war against terrorism yet our laws prevent us from accepting help when offered.

Korea, Germany, Japan have no sovereignty problems with a US presence on their soil. Singapore does not mind if US warships dock and replenish. Heck, even the US does not mind having the Luftwaffe operate fighter training aircraft on US soil and airspace.

We kicked the US out of our country, the ingrates we are, now here we are pissing in the wind with our pants around our ankles, secretly hoping the Americans would be back while many of us wish and dream for defense systems we should have had while we could have basked under the protective mantle of the 7th Fleet and 13th Air Force presence in the Philippines.

I do not believe we gained points on sovereignty when the US bases were scrapped. We actually lost our prestige and international standing when we rendered ourselves naked defense-wise. Yet our legislators continue to posture like we are some big shot country.

There is no such thing as a free lunch. We made our bed, we sleep in it.

That is why I do not wish that the US would give us this, or that. It makes me sound like I'm screaming "Yankee Come Back!"

But then again, the truth hurts. Who was it who said he would rather have a country run like hell by Filipinos. He got what he wished for.

I see our country as a volcano waiting to explode with all the clowns in congress and politicians performing on a stage on the crater.

This country needs a total reboot, a new operating system. Our constitution guarantees we will always have corruption, patronage politics and a steady decline towards banana republic status. The same constitution guarantees a culture of indifference with an undisciplined society. We will continue to have an irresponsible media, a meddling church and widening gap between the rich and the poor. Educational standards will continue to decline. Our constitution guarantees we will have more leftist front organizations in congress as party list representatives. Our constitution guarantees t hat land reform will lie dead in the water. Heck, it even guarantees that squatters can take over your property. More and more Filipinos will continue to leave our shores. We have no more nurses, our doctors are studying to be nurses abroad.

Don't you find it strange that it is always "NO!" for charter change? Who mouths the call for anti-chacha? Natural, yung mga kaliwa.

Flipzi may be oozing with optimism about our country, i don't blame him at all. Singa Lion may be so tactless when he lambasts our culture and societal norms, yet the truth stares us in the face. Rallion worries about brigade commanders staging a coup, my gosh, Oakwood was led by Captains and Lieutenants. In many god forsaken countries, you have NCOs leading coups. I read the next exercise being led by the Top 3.

I remember my earliest postings about conversion and absolute corruption in the military. I posted in detail yet got lambasted as a leftist and sower of intrigue. Would you believe some people even asked me to show proof. Two weeks later, Major General Garcia became a household word. Many of us continue to be in denial.

We are not going to have all the fancy aircraft, warships, and defense systems everybody has been dreaming about here until we get our house in order. How dare we talk about external defense when we cannot even handle the internal security and destabilization taking place. Our enemy is not Red China. It is ourselves.

It is a cycle that takes place every three years, elections, elections, patronage politics, political debts, more pork. More corruption. Every three years. We are on the way down...unless a total change happens and we go back to the basics with a complete reboot and remake of our system. We will have a civil war.

... Joma Sison, Jalandoni, Ka Roger and all of them are laughing at us.