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The China Threat; military, political, economic, etc.
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flipzi	Jan 24 2005, 04:47 PM Post #31
R-A-T-S Posts: 8,213 Group: Elite Member #71 Joined: August 8, 2004	ColdDeadFish Jan 24 2005, 04:26 PM The only way to prevent all of this is to weaken or hasten china's eco growth. The key move is to devalue their currency. China is defying this. There must be a way to externally force them to devalue it. The problem here, Fish is that they seem to know this. They know what overheating meant to them. They even know the importance of low-cost production. Well, what can we expect from one of the world's best entreprenuers? The problem here is that western compnaies are propelling China's economy. The sad thing though is that i can see that most of Chinese workers there are underpaid and living below their measure of the poverty line. The best thing here is to compel the western companies not take precaution in closing deals with their Chinese partners. Our part? We just have to do our part in ridding corruption and strengthen our defenses.
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ColdDeadFish	Jan 25 2005, 02:41 PM Post #32
Major Posts: 938 Group: Regulars Member #153 Joined: October 4, 2004	flipzi Jan 24 2005, 04:47 PM ColdDeadFish Jan 24 2005, 04:26 PM The only way to prevent all of this is to weaken or hasten china's eco growth. The key move is to devalue their currency. China is defying this. There must be a way to externally force them to devalue it. The problem here, Fish is that they seem to know this. They know what overheating meant to them. They even know the importance of low-cost production. Well, what can we expect from one of the world's best entreprenuers? The problem here is that western compnaies are propelling China's economy. The sad thing though is that i can see that most of Chinese workers there are underpaid and living below their measure of the poverty line. The best thing here is to compel the western companies not take precaution in closing deals with their Chinese partners. Our part? We just have to do our part in ridding corruption and strengthen our defenses. True, thats what I hate about bush. He should be worried about China erasing their way of life than Al Qaeda. Not that Al Qaeda is not a threat, its much more that China will potentially do more damage than Al Qaeda. Appeasing China is their way of managing this, its like the brits appeasing Hitler in the mid 30s.



flipzi	Jan 25 2005, 03:17 PM Post #33
R-A-T-S Posts: 8,213 Group: Elite Member #71 Joined: August 8, 2004	So, it's more like the "history repeats itself" thing? But the sad fact again is this; Europe (including RUSSIA), where most of the investors come from, and the US will not be affected if in case China eventually ventures out to bully its neighbors again. These investors and even their government wouldnt care whatever China would do then. What matters most to them is how much money they can earn from dealing with China. Why will they anyway care if China turns this part of the region the next Iraq or Afghanistan when they are in fact a thousand miles away from us?
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Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Mar 3 2005, 06:13 AM Post #34
PDFF Moderator Posts: 5,008 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	There is only one reason why China's economy has catapulted to such a degree that became an envy to the US. It is the fact that the world now learned to buy their cheap products. Why cheap ? Because of cheap labor, and mostly of these are done in prison camps by prisoners. It's quite intriguing why the modern world has accepted this kind of economic strategy from a society where human rights never exist, and even on the verge of playing a vital role in the WTO. Big US and European Companies have established their base in China for the above reasons. ''LEVI STRAUSS & CO ", is suppose to be a famous US manufacturer of rugged jeans (pants) etc. but, mostly of their products are made in China, This is one example. It is for these reason why mainland China has not instituted drastic action against it's renegade province of Taiwan, so as not to irritate the US and the European countries to protect it's economic interests and to presrve the ongoing economic harmony with the democratic world.
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Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Mar 5 2005, 09:00 AM Post #35
PDFF Moderator Posts: 5,008 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	Lately the People's Congress of China has appropriated $30 billion for the military budget, and this has raised concerns from the US government. It has been speculated that this is a prelude to their drastic action against their renegade province Taiwan.
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adroth	Aug 26 2005, 01:02 AM Post #36
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adroth	Aug 26 2005, 01:03 AM Post #37
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saver111	Aug 26 2005, 12:11 PM Post #38
PDFF Moderator Posts: 10,625 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #408 Joined: March 23, 2005	All Chinese made. But still, menacing, gives you the goosebumps while waiting for exclusively U.S. made equipments which we wouldn't know which would come first. :whogives:
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israeli	Aug 26 2005, 12:48 PM Post #39
Posts: 3,069 Group: Elite Member #22 Joined: July 13, 2004	saver111: yeah... but... just a thought. i don't know if you will agree with me or not. will it be "wise" for the Philippines to buy Chinese since the Americans seem to be "unreliable" as of the moment. just look at the Thais. some of their equipment are Chinese made and yet, they are able to use them quite efficiently despite doubts on the quality of Chinese-made weapons and equipment.
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saver111	Aug 26 2005, 01:09 PM Post #40
PDFF Moderator Posts: 10,625 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #408 Joined: March 23, 2005	israeli Aug 26 2005, 12:48 PM saver111: yeah... but... just a thought. i don't know if you will agree with me or not. will it be "wise" for the Philippines to buy Chinese since the Americans seem to be "unreliable" as of the moment. just look at the Thais. some of their equipment are Chinese made and yet, they are able to use them quite efficiently despite doubts on the quality of Chinese-made weapons and equipment. Israeli, I'm not advocating that we go Chinese, what I'm saying is why wait for U.S. made equipments if we could get from other sources that could at least "deter" these threat using "unreliable" Chinese technology, but still is giving us sleepless nights. Why can't our leaders have that sleepless nights themselves?
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