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The China Threat; military, political, economic, etc.
Topic Started: Sep 16 2004, 01:56 AM (13,543 Views)
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gritpaladin
Nov 1 2010, 01:50 PM
I agree... Never trust the People's Republic of China for its Aggressive Modernization of its Military Capability and its Interests in Claiming the Whole South China Sea. Currently, they look at Vietnam as their Southernmost part of Mainland China and that means whatever Vietnam claims is theirs to own....

Especially when the Chinese tried to claim Scarborough (nearest to Luzon & separate from Spratlys group of Islets) thru Military action with the help of North Korean boats and Malaysian frogmen back in 1989.

As of this time, let us see how the PAF will upgrade our exisitng AS211 (Analog Avionics version of M311) by installing a bellypod 50cal MG and put them on READY or FLYing Status..Then look for a low-cost Multi-role Fighter jet to fill the gap left by F5

AB0LISH CHINA TOWN!!!
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Nov 13 2010, 01:20 AM
gritpaladin
Nov 1 2010, 01:50 PM
I agree...  Never trust the People's Republic of China for its Aggressive Modernization of its Military Capability and its Interests in Claiming the Whole South China Sea.  Currently,  they look at Vietnam as their Southernmost part of Mainland China and that means whatever Vietnam claims is theirs to own....

Especially when the Chinese tried to claim Scarborough (nearest to Luzon & separate from Spratlys group of Islets) thru Military action with the help of North Korean boats and Malaysian frogmen back in 1989.

As of this time,  let us see how the PAF will upgrade our exisitng AS211 (Analog Avionics version of M311) by installing a bellypod 50cal MG and put them on READY or FLYing Status..Then look for a low-cost Multi-role Fighter jet to fill the gap left by F5

AB0LISH CHINA TOWN!!!

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gritpaladin
Nov 1 2010, 01:50 PM
I agree... Never trust the People's Republic of China for its Aggressive Modernization of its Military Capability and its Interests in Claiming the Whole South China Sea. Currently, they look at Vietnam as their Southernmost part of Mainland China and that means whatever Vietnam claims is theirs to own....

Especially when the Chinese tried to claim Scarborough (nearest to Luzon & separate from Spratlys group of Islets) thru Military action with the help of North Korean boats and Malaysian frogmen back in 1989.

As of this time, let us see how the PAF will upgrade our exisitng AS211 (Analog Avionics version of M311) by installing a bellypod 50cal MG and put them on READY or FLYing Status..Then look for a low-cost Multi-role Fighter jet to fill the gap left by F5

these, dear gents, are all stop-gap measures, as you all well know. but what good would a .50cal do against AA missiles and supersonic air assets of the PLAAF? our jet-trainers masquerading as fighters would be falling from the skies (if not thru performance malfunction)? thank god for the south china sea - at least the chinese can't march against us all the way from the mainland
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I guess you are right, the PLAN troops can't easily march their way here but they are sooner or later launch their own Aircraft Carrier with Su33 fighters and project its Military Power throughout the South China Sea...

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Nov 19 2010, 10:24 PM
I guess you are right, the PLAN troops can't easily march their way here but they are sooner or later launch their own Aircraft Carrier with Su33 fighters and project its Military Power throughout the South China Sea...

and then, let us pray that they will run aground in the coral reefs, or else we would be resorting to throwing rocks at them sukhois. VFA? Bah! the kanos will never go to war with china on our account. back in ww2 maybe, because the japs were too greedy to try to encompass the whole southeast asian region. but if the chinks were to limit their objective to conquering us poor pinoys, it would not be too much of a bother to the kanos.
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If they'll attack us, I think they'll attack Japan and Taiwan as well. The only difference is that Japan and Taiwan can defend their airspace and we'll not be able to defend ours.

I hate to say this but our AS-211's will never be able to fight back those sukhois in the initial part of the invasion which is I believe will be an air strike.

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I think every body knows that bro
"No sacrifice is too great in the service of freedom."

“As long as we are not willing to provide an adequate, suitable and capable defense for this country, we will be oppressed, demeaned and dishonored. We will be the stepping mat of every country in this region,”(Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile)

“Just because we are a very weak country militarily, we should not be taken advantage of by more powerful countries" (Senate committee on national defense and security chairman Panfilo Lacson)
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vonCalusewitz
Nov 20 2010, 12:32 AM
the kanos will never go to war with china on our account. back in ww2 maybe, because the japs were too greedy to try to encompass the whole southeast asian region. but if the chinks were to limit their objective to conquering us poor pinoys, it would not be too much of a bother to the kanos.

Uhmm, sir. I respectfully disagree with your statement. :armywink:
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i also respectfully agree that you disagree. however, given the pros and cons of a U.S.-PROC war, i think that on the balance sheet, the cons will outweigh the pros. remember when we were beating our chests because the PLAN put up structures in the mischief reefs? the kanos advised us, rather tipidly, to "try to resolve our differences thru diplomacy". if they are really serious about defending us, they might have "adviced" the PROC to cease and desist from their expansionism in the disputed area and maintain the status quo.
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Nov 29 2010, 05:26 PM
i also respectfully agree that you disagree. however, given the pros and cons of a U.S.-PROC war, i think that on the balance sheet, the cons will outweigh the pros. remember when we were beating our chests because the PLAN put up structures in the mischief reefs? the kanos advised us, rather tipidly, to "try to resolve our differences thru diplomacy". if they are really serious about defending us, they might have "adviced" the PROC to cease and desist from their expansionism in the disputed area and maintain the status quo.

RP-US Mutual Defense Treaty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Defens...%93Philippines)


Thanks for replying sir. Anyways, I guess nobody knows the exact reason why did the Americans were quite hesitant during that time that's why all we can do is assume. As I can see it's was a bit of an invasion because it was inside our EEZ. But I also see it as not a provocative act unlike what the PRC did when it test fired its missiles toward the taiwan strait or the recent artillery strike by DPRK to SoKOR..

Whatever those americans were thinking that time and told us to cool down a bit, we will never know...

But when the real thing comes, like when PRC does something provocative such as bombing Pag-Asa airfield, uncle sam's should help juan dela cruz and vise-versa with our without that treaty because we're allies. :specool:
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