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The China Threat; military, political, economic, etc.
Tweet Topic Started: Sep 16 2004, 01:56 AM (13,545 Views)
truegrit	Jul 2 2009, 04:41 AM Post #151
Posts: 2,202 Group: Elite Member #28 Joined: July 23, 2004	jedi knight Jul 1 2009, 06:18 PM Can't understand your reaction, there's no need to panic, do you think the chinese are foolish enough to post something in an unsecured site that has valuable intelligence? Isn't it that we are also talking about their military capabilities and also of a dozen other countries not only in this forum but in a dozen other forum as well? If each and everyone of us would have a paranoid reaction to each and every pictures that we see in non-english forums, then we are just scaring ourselves to death, those guys must be laughing their hearts out if they read how we react! bro, i guess ur right.... They talk about us and we talk about them....However, their information is more in detail and up close as if they have easy access on whats inside our Navy ships... In contrast to that, we are only discussing the bird's eye view of their capability by looking their ships from the outside. photo shots inside a Military ships or aircraft is prohibited as there are sensitive information that needs to be conceal....I learn my lesson when we supposedly took pics while the loading ramp of a C130 is OPEN...one AirForce Officer kindly told us not to coz C130 contain sensitive gadgets....



Marschall	Jul 2 2009, 04:55 AM Post #152
Member Posts: 1,299 Group: Regulars Member #621 Joined: December 9, 2005	Quote: photo shots inside a Military ships or aircraft is prohibited as there are sensitive information that needs to be conceal....I learn my lesson when we supposedly took pics while the loading ramp of a C130 is OPEN...one AirForce Officer kindly told us not to coz C130 contain sensitive gadgets.... I doubt we have anything the Chinese would have to fear.
	"THE BEST PARENT AND GUARDIAN OF LIBERTY AMONGST MEN IS TRUTH" ~ Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei �When learned men begin to use their reason, then I generally discover that they haven�t got any.� - G. K. Chesterton MSantor is not a man of sound reason. Savages have always preferred the club for they know that they are powerless against the pen. But who is the greater fool - the savage or the one that gives him power? May Truth rebuke you.


jedi knight	Jul 2 2009, 04:51 PM Post #153
Member Posts: 515 Group: Regulars Member #618 Joined: December 6, 2005	gritpaladin Jul 2 2009, 04:41 AM jedi knight Jul 1 2009, 06:18 PM Can't understand your reaction, there's no need to panic, do you think the chinese are foolish enough to post something in an unsecured site that has valuable intelligence? Isn't it that we are also talking about their military capabilities and also of a dozen other countries not only in this forum but in a dozen other forum as well? If each and everyone of us would have a paranoid reaction to each and every pictures that we see in non-english forums, then we are just scaring ourselves to death, those guys must be laughing their hearts out if they read how we react! bro, i guess ur right.... They talk about us and we talk about them....However, their information is more in detail and up close as if they have easy access on whats inside our Navy ships... In contrast to that, we are only discussing the bird's eye view of their capability by looking their ships from the outside. photo shots inside a Military ships or aircraft is prohibited as there are sensitive information that needs to be conceal....I learn my lesson when we supposedly took pics while the loading ramp of a C130 is OPEN...one AirForce Officer kindly told us not to coz C130 contain sensitive gadgets.... I agree! But you can also download those pictures in other military related sites. Even in Wikipedia you can see pictures and information about the Philippine military, how many divisions do we have and how many battalions the Army has. Inside our navy ships? Well, Gen. Loven Abadia, former CG PAF knows whats inside of a MIG-25 and a MIG-29 because he flew those aircrafts in the early 1990s. Don't be paranoid by mere pictures. But if you would see maps detailing the positions of military units down to company and platoon level, then maybe that the time the authorities need to do something. Does anyone here really believes that we would go on a shooting war with China?



jooper	Jul 8 2009, 05:44 PM Post #154
Member Posts: 199 Group: Regulars Member #155 Joined: October 4, 2004	To further support Sir Jedi Knight's argument I have information on how the close-in images were produced. The close-in images on the PN warships are from PN warships berthed in Fort San Felipe were taken years ago by a college student during his naval ROTC field trip. This is a normal activity for NAVAL ROTC cadets and continues to this day. Getting close-in photographs of warships like these are common in various countries. If it were OPSEC, the PN would not have berthed these ships at HPN in Roxas Boulvard from time to time - vulnerable to the prying eyes of various spies.



epigone	Jul 16 2009, 04:23 AM Post #155
Member Posts: 1,410 Group: Regulars Member #631 Joined: December 22, 2005	I wonder how the Chinese security experts in the forum would defend themselves from accusations that if they are really serious in containing North Korea's nuclear ambitions they should have imposed sanctions on her since its inception. However, the latest developments on Kim Jong Il's health and his pancreatic cancer might have been realized or born fruition because of China's popular viral experts among their biochemists and virologists. You'll never know. The Communist Party of USA condemned the nuclear tests but when prompted by AFP journalists for them to condemn CPP-NPAs heinous crimes like extortion, arson, torching of buses, recruiting minors, landmines, they invoked fraternal relations with them.
	"Provocation is a valid defense against homicide"- Canadian Law on MSantor who 'cough, cough..', passes by my company room with a cup of coffee, waits for me in the bus shelter together with his friends and provoke me, and has been stalking me in forums like army.ca, navy.ca, timawa.net, militaryforums.com... He indeed is 'SEEKING DEATH' - Holy Bible.


epigone	Aug 15 2009, 08:04 PM Post #156
Member Posts: 1,410 Group: Regulars Member #631 Joined: December 22, 2005	Neither does it belong to Philippines nor China. You know to whom it belongs? VIETNAM! Good morning, Vietnam!
	"Provocation is a valid defense against homicide"- Canadian Law on MSantor who 'cough, cough..', passes by my company room with a cup of coffee, waits for me in the bus shelter together with his friends and provoke me, and has been stalking me in forums like army.ca, navy.ca, timawa.net, militaryforums.com... He indeed is 'SEEKING DEATH' - Holy Bible.


MSantor	Sep 27 2009, 11:37 PM Post #157
Posts: 28,658 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #516 Joined: August 6, 2005	For those of you here who don't regularly check out the "World Military Current Events" section of PDFF, which has mostly foreign updates, you should note that more work was observed on the ex-Soviet carrier VARYAG in a Chinese shipyard. PDFF's "China Watch" thread
	"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." - Henry Ford "Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking"- Gen. George S. Patton


Kreuzfahrer	Sep 28 2009, 12:46 AM Post #158
Trainee Posts: 27 Group: Trainees Member #5,727 Joined: August 6, 2009	China is really planning to make aircraft carriers that could challenge the US in the Pacific as well as threat to many nation in East Asia including us as it will give China naval striking capabilities almost similar to the US



Zero wing	Nov 30 2009, 06:51 PM Post #159
ZAFT Sepcial Forces Operative for SEA Posts: 1,419 Group: Regulars Member #745 Joined: June 10, 2006	Wow now we have oil in Sulu sea now we should modernized now because of this treats level up
	"No sacrifice is too great in the service of freedom." �As long as we are not willing to provide an adequate, suitable and capable defense for this country, we will be oppressed, demeaned and dishonored. We will be the stepping mat of every country in this region,�(Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile) �Just because we are a very weak country militarily, we should not be taken advantage of by more powerful countries" (Senate committee on national defense and security chairman Panfilo Lacson)


Blue Maxxx	Jan 2 2010, 02:40 PM Post #160
Member Posts: 1,039 Group: Regulars Member #5,799 Joined: December 10, 2009	I agree! We should begin fast pace Modernization of our AFP now!.. With China starting to upgrade that Varyag Aircraft carrier it is something We Filipinos should be aware of in the first place.. Phil Air Force, Phil Navy and Phil Marine Corps must be given first and full priority modernization funds for up grade of Military advance equippments to defend our country from the "ChinDits!"
	Per Ardua ad Astra "Through Adversity to the Stars"! We Filipinos should always aim High! to the Stars! and Beyond them blue yonder!.


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