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The China Threat; military, political, economic, etc.
Topic Started: Sep 16 2004, 01:56 AM (13,535 Views)
typhoidX
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what do most of you think about the modern day PRC?
do you guys regard China as a threat, as so many americans neo-cons do?
in your view, what are the PRC's policies toward the Phillipines? & what do you like and/or dislike about it?
similiarly, what do you think about the US's current policies toward the Phillipines? (first of all, tell me what are the US's policies toward your country? 'cause i have no clue).

i hope to get some productive discussions started, thx for your time. :armycheers:
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Of course, I regard China as a threat - especially in the SEA region. Just look at the PRC's expansionist moves in the Spratlys.

Nuff said.
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Re: Switik & everyone else who wants to join in:

border/territorial disputes are a common occurance amongst many countries.

in the case of the spratlys, just about every nation involved made provocative & unilateral moves, despite the disputed claims by other parties. for instance, the vietnamese are establishing tourist outposts on islands claimed by others in the SEA, probably including the phillipines; indonesia is unilaterally exploring oil in the southern spratlys, the PRC has expanded its military outposts on islands it currently occupies. there are reports of Filipino navy gun boats firing upon foreign fishing boats in order to enforce its claims in the region.

i don't want to start a flame war here, but do Filipinos think the PRC is more of a threat to the phillipines' claims of sovreignty in the spratlys region because it is perceived to be the strongest, economically & militarily? or is it some other factor that makes it seem more threatening than any other nation; even though other nations have made provocative moves as well?

also, does the PRC's recent efforts to resolve the issue by diplomatic means & her proposal for joint ventures with the Phillipines in the region change any perceptions of the PRC one way or the other? if so, what do you make of this recent development?
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also, does the PRC's recent efforts to resolve the issue by diplomatic means & her proposal for joint ventures with the Phillipines in the region change any perceptions of the PRC one way or the other? if so, what do you make of this recent development?


Good move for PRC
Caught the US off guard here.
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also, does the PRC's recent efforts to resolve the issue by diplomatic means & her proposal for joint ventures with the Phillipines in the region change any perceptions of the PRC one way or the other? if so, what do you make of this recent development?


Ok for me as long as you Chinese do not use this as a pretense or cover for sudden occupation of the entire Spratlys.
To avoid criticism, write nothing, say nothing, do nothing, BE NOTHING.
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Three words to consider when treading water with the Chinese:

Careful...careful...careful
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so... from what i gather, the concensus amongst you is that there's a willingness for a cautious engagement with the PRC.

but a previous question remains unanswered: just about everyone in the region has made gains of some kind in the spratelys at the expense of the other parties involved. what makes the PRC more threatening? how do you think the phillipines should deal with the other SEA nations who also claim & occupy parts of these same territories?
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but not a lot of gains and incursions compared to the Chinese and since China is the big dog in the region and with a not so palatable record to boot, its just natural for the puppies to feel vulnerable and apprehensive...
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wag na lang, traydor ang mga tsekwa, baka magsisi lang tayo sa huli...
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Oblivious of the fact that the Chinese strategy unfolds without having to physically invade the Philippines.

- Eroding and destroying the moral fibre of Filipino youth by a frontal assault by flooding the Philippines with shabu. Aba, even our policemen are now shabu users.

- Through their local representative, they have already acquired, to name a few, Philippine Air Lines and Philippine National Bank.

- Through the same agents in the Philippines, they have bankrolled presidential campaigns. Even senatorial campaigns.

Why invade when you can control the economy and destroy the moral fibre of it's youth..

Fry the Philippines in it's own fat.
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