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Are PMAayers the cause
Topic Started: Aug 8 2004, 06:14 PM (3,757 Views)
Wombat 11
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a rather blunt question but I'm rather fed up with their shenanigans, I think PMAayers are the cause for all troubles in the Philippine military. :angry:
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hoy wombat its not a question its a statement and not all pmayers are bad tomatoes
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Wombat 11
Aug 8 2004, 06:14 PM
a rather blunt question but I'm rather fed up with their shenanigans, I think PMAayers are the cause for all troubles in the Philippine military. :angry:

Kindly explain why they are the cause. :crawling:
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i second the motion..call me biased or what,but I don't believe that all PMAyers are bad tomatoes...
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muktab ali vava
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hinde nga lhat bad tamatis pero ang mga gud tamatis ayaw namang sawayin at kinukunsinti pa ang mga bad tamatis eh di pareho lang sila lahat... :rifle:
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Ganun nga. If you are not part of the solution then you are a part of the problem. That goes for everybody, 'cept we expect more from peemayers. Diba lang?
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and this cannot be easily corrected, deeply rooted na sa ayer psyche ang mistah brotherhood kaya in both good and bad situations, walang iwanan talaga except lang kung matters of national survival like what happened during the coups de etat but even then ayer mistahs from government and rebel sides manifested these negative characteristics
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Sep 11 2004, 05:08 PM
and this cannot be easily corrected, deeply rooted na sa ayer psyche ang mistah brotherhood kaya in both good and bad situations, walang iwanan talaga except lang kung matters of national survival like what happened during the coups de etat but even then ayer mistahs from government and rebel sides manifested these negative characteristics

The life of PMA cadets revolves around strict adherence to the honor code. It is a must for all cadets not only to know the code but to practice and practice and make it a way of life. The Cadet Honor Code is what distinguishes a PMA cadet from students of other institutions.

THE HONOR CODE

WE, THE CADETS DO NOT LIE, CHEAT, STEAL NOR TOLERATE THOSE WHO DO

1. A cadet does not lie. In his dealing with others, a cadet tells the truth, regardless of the consequences. He does not quibble. He does not make evasive statements.

2. A cadet does not cheat. A cadet does not defraud others nor does he take undue advantage of them.

3. A cadet does not steal. A cadet does not take any personal property of another without the latter’s consent. He does not keep for himself anything that he finds which does not belong to him.

4. A cadet does not tolerate any violation of the Code. A cadet is bound to report any breach of the Code that comes to his attention. He does not countenance by inaction honor violations; if he does, he becomes party to such a violation and he himself is as guilty as the violator.

http://www.pma.ph/cadet/Cadet.htm

The development of character is one of the crucial aspects in the training of a cadet. It is a fundamental objective which the Philippine Military Academy strives to achieve through the Honor Code and the Honor System. This system is a unique system which is administered by the cadets themselves. Through the Honor System, the cadet binds himself to the Code which states that:

"We, the cadets, do not lie, cheat, steal, nor tolerate among us those who do so."

A Cadet does not lie. He always tells the truth regardless of the consequences. He does not quibble or make evasive statements. A cadet does not cheat. He does not defraud others nor does he take undue advantage of them. Whatever credit he earns in any cadet activity is wholly his own. A cadet does not steal. He does not take the personal property of another without the latters consent. He does not keep for himself anything that he finds which does not belong to him. A cadet does not do any of these things and he does not tolerate any violations of the Code. He is bound to report any breach of the code that comes to his attention. He does not countenance by inaction any honor violation; if he were to, he becomes a party to such violation and he himself is as guilty as the original violator. The Honor System transcends all ranks and class barriers. No cadet, regardless of his rank and class is above the System. No violator of the Code is granted immunity. No cadet who violates the Code can redeem himself from the violation he commits.

The spirit of the Honor System is based on two basic questions:

* Do I intend to deceive?
* Do I intend to take undue advantage?

If a cadet can answer "No" to both questions, he is not guilty of any honor violation. Once caught or reported for an honor violation, the cadet is investigated by the Honor Committee composed of cadets. There are twenty-five members; one representative from the first, second, third, and fourth classes in each of the eight companies. The first and second class representatives are the voting members, while the thirdclass are the recorders. If an honor case is to be formalized, the Honor Court composed of eight voting members and two recorders conduct a formal fearing. A unanimous vote of "Guilty" is needed to convict a cadet of an honor violation. If found guilty, the cadet is asked to resign for the good of the service. The proceedings of an Honor Committee is a privilege communication and known only to the committee and the Superintendent. Once caught or reported for an honor violation, the cadet is investigated by the Honor Committee composed of cadets.

As the Class of 1951 would succinctly describe in their article on the Honor Committee, one could get a tangible picture of the impact, implication, and relevance of the System in the Cadet Corps. The following are exerpts which were taken from that article:

"The Honor Code is our pride as it is our heritage; we will hold its trust long after we have left the gray line. We will be guided by its principles of fearless truth regardless of consequence, a sine qua non in our profession of arms."

"We admit that every man who enters the Academy has been subjected to different environments which we cannot expect to change in a short time, but we strive to help him i his adjustment to a new system whee his word is accepted as the truth. Emphasis is placed on the fact that a rendition of a report with a knowledge of the existence of an anomaly is dishonesty intolerable among the group of gentlemen the Corps endeavors to produce."

"Our Code does not deviate from the universal concept of Honor. It demands the truth ... nothing else, but the truth ... both by act and implication. Each cadet becomes a zealous guardian to this earmark of the Corps and will report another or himself for a violation of honor. It is in keeping this priceless legacy from our predecessors that we seek to transmit it unblemished to the unending gray line."

Truth is the virtue of the Corps. But as in all generalities there exists an exception, a certain individual will fail the trust exacted of him by the Code. Herein lies the main task for which the Honor Committee, a purely cadet body was organized. It should be noted that in the past, it was purely an investigating body and does not have the authority to impose a punitive action against the erring cadet. A formal investigation of the honor irregularity is undertaken and unanimous votes of its members determine whether the cadet is guilty or innocent of a violation of honor. Confidential reports of the case with accompanying recommendations are then forwarded to the Commandant of Cadets for official action.

To foster the spirit of truth which the Code aims to imbibe in each cadet and to prevent the occurrence of practices inconsistent with its principles, the Honor Committee has made it a policy to conduct periodic lectures to each class giving its interpretation of various controversial points that may arise. With the entrance of each plebe class on April 1, it assumed the responsibility of indoctrinating the fourthclassmen to the Code under which they had to live as cadets and future officers.
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/nevcal/code.html
"The important things are always simple and the simple are always hard."

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4. A cadet does not tolerate any violation of the Code. A cadet is bound to report any breach of the Code that comes to his attention. He does not countenance by inaction honor violations; if he does, he becomes party to such a violation and he himself is as guilty as the violator.


Very ironic. Nuff said. :armytwisted:
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if we make a conclusion for a body based from what we observe on a part.. then that's a fallacy of combination.. in short of simple language.. don't generalize.. madami pa din ang cavaliers na still living by motto of the academy..
"The important things are always simple and the simple are always hard."

LET'S GO ARMY!!!

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