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Taiwan and the SCS/WPS; re-titled merged threads
Topic Started: Jun 28 2012, 06:47 PM (4,511 Views)
spearhead
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I rather have singapore to play as the WPS peacemaker.
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how can taiwan be trusted when it has also vested interests in the area?

thanks but no thanks Taiwan.
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Sep 1 2012, 05:13 PM
Really, can Taiwan be trusted?

http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_Detail.aspx?Type=aALL&ID=201209010005

2012/09/01 13:55:07
Taipei, Sept. 1 (CNA) Taiwan is determined to become a peacemaker in the South China Sea, President Ma Ying-jeou's top national security adviser said Friday during a visit to Taiping Island in the region.

"With our 60 years of experience in administering Taiping Island, we can serve as a humanitarian aid provider, anti-global warming practitioner and peacemaker in the region," declared National Security Council (NSC) Secretary-General Hu Wei-chen.

Hu and several other senior officials visited Taiping Island -- the largest isle of the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea -- Friday to reinforce the country's claim to the vast ocean area and the island chains there amid escalating territorial disputes among neighboring countries.

Taiwan is just the PRC, except that it is ruled with Nationalists.

If it comes to this, then we will have to side with the lesser devil.
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Every election-cycle they are warming up with the idea of re-unification with China. You can't trust them.

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Sep 1 2012, 05:13 PM
Really, can Taiwan be trusted?
I think not. Much like trusting wolves to watch over sheep. :scared:

Horizon :thumbsup: Taiwan has vested interest in the area.

Spearhead :thumbsup: Someone with no interest in the area.

Parastriker :thumbsup: It's China with a different packaging.

Icefrog :thumbsup: Re-unification will make things more complicated. Potential major screw-up here.
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That will be difficult for Taiwan to do. Remember now, they have been the echo of China. When ever China makes a statement such as a claim, they would do the same thing. What I would like to hear before hand is what position they will take first before they become the middle man. The more credible arbiter could be Indonesia who has more clout, non-aligned, and China is willing to listen to.
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Taiwan basicall backs the Chinese claim of dominance over all the islands in the Spratlys. The only difference is is that it is weaker than the Communist ruled Chinese mainland.

They cannot be trusted.
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Taiwan and China have formed a peaceful coexistence. Taiwan thinks as long as they provide China with some technical information plus trade they will be buddies with each other. Taiwan thinks that as long as China is happy the threat of Chinese invasion can be averted. As such, they have become sort of a vassal state of China. Plus being Chinese, they think they are real brothers.

Taiwan cannot be trusted. Keep Taiwan with some distance from Phil. affairs, esp. military ones.
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Taiwan made the 9-dash line and was adopted by the PRC.
If you don't want a modern and capable AFP, you might want to get the f*ck off the Philippines because you don't deserve to be a Filipino that's why!
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Why Taiwan cannot be trusted as a peacemaker in the Spratlys... :armyeek:

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90786/7933370.html

09:49, September 03, 2012

Taiwan is conducting a live-ammunition military drill on Taiping Island of the Nansha Islands, the first such exercise by Taiwan in the South China Sea since regional disputes escalated this year.

We appreciate this exercise, which helps protect Chinese sovereignty.

Vietnam's protest against Taiwan's drill should be neglected. The Nansha Islands belong to China, which is an unshakable bottom line insisted upon by Chinese society. Taiwan, despite its economic ties with Vietnam and the Philippines, has overcome their opposition and made pragmatic efforts to safeguard Chinese sovereignty.

Territorial issues have remained unaddressed since the first half of last century. They are difficult to approach and solve today, despite rising maritime and sovereignty awareness across Asia.

In recent years, the Chinese mainland has been taking countermeasures to fight provocations over sovereignty by the Philippines, Vietnam and Japan, while also wrangling with the "smart power" diplomacy of the US in the Pacific. But Taiwan has its unique advantages in safeguarding Chinese sovereignty.

The hyping-up of the "China threat" mainly targets the mainland. Taiwan's efforts to protect Chinese sovereignty will not raise excessive suspicions, and it will not be labeled as a "bully."

Meanwhile, Taiwan is close to the Diaoyu Islands, which are under the administration of Taiwan's Ilan county. Taiping Island, the biggest island of the Nansha Islands, is under Taiwan's practical control.

Compared with the mainland, it is easy and convenient for Taiwan to take steps to protect sovereignty.

It is not that we want to shake off the mainland's responsibilities. Its comprehensive strength determines that the mainland must undertake the lion's share in such tasks. However, the mainland faces a complex strategic environment.

We understand Taiwan's special relationship with the US and the dilemma that Taiwan authorities face.

The US is using maritime territorial disputes to check the mainland's rise, and it does not want to see Taiwan help the mainland over territorial disputes in East Asia.

Nonetheless, Taiwan cannot remain as a bystander. It must look at the interests of the entire Chinese people, and act in the current island disputes in East Asia.

This drill on the Taiping Island comes at a good time. The mainland is building up its naval strength and reinforcing law enforcement in waters surrounding disputed islands. It is prepared for more possible frictions with regional countries in the future. In this process, actions by Taiwan like this drill will help stress Chinese claims.

Along with the growth of the mainland and the deepening of ties across the Taiwan Straits, Taiwan needs to change its habit of often being in lockstep with the US.

This is not a requirement by the mainland, but is prompted by the changing political landscape in the Asia-Pacific. Taiwan leaders should embrace this change.
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