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Vietnam vs China in the Paracel Islands, SCS; updates, discussions
Topic Started: Jun 25 2012, 06:56 PM (3,396 Views)
MSantor
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How Should Vietnam Respond to China's South China Sea Oil Rig Return?
A look at Beijing’s motivations and Hanoi’s options.


The redeployment of a Chinese oil rig in the South China Sea (SCS) shows an inconsistency in the rhetoric and practice of China’s policy in the disputed waters. Together with its mass land reclamation activities, these actions are part and parcel of coercive diplomacy. It affirms China’s territorial ambition in the highly strategic sea. But is it likely to escalate into regional conflict?

China’s Haiyang Shiyou 981 (HD-981) oil rig was redeployed in June after the 2014 dispute with Vietnam. This time, the rig returned at a crucial moment: just weeks before the first visit by the General Secretary of Vietnam’s Communist Party Nguyen Phu Trong to Washington. With a rapprochement that is leading towards a US–Vietnam comprehensive partnership, the meeting’s agenda also includes South China Sea concerns, to China’s annoyance.

The move itself, announced by China’s maritime safety authorities, also comes soon after the country indicated it was close to completion of its land reclamation activities in the maritime heart of Southeast Asia. Owned by the China National Offshore Oil Cooperation, the rig will officially operate from 26 June to 20 August 2015.

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Vietnam Slams Chinese Naval Drill in South China Sea
Vietnamese authorities have called on the Chinese navy to cease a military exercise in disputed waters.


Vietnamese authorities are calling for the China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) to stop a naval exercise off the coast of Hainan Island, near the disputed Paracel Islands in the South China Sea. The Vietnamese foreign ministry issued a statement demanding that the PLAN exercise be halted immediately. In Vietnam’s view, the area where the exercise is taking place violates the country’s sovereignty. Vietnam and China both claim sovereignty over the Paracel Islands.

On July 20, the PLAN announced that it would conducted a “10-day training in waters off (sic) eastern Hainan Islands.” In a statement posted on the Chinese military’s website, the PLA noted that the exercise would take place “in the relevant waters near eastern Hainan Island in the South China Sea from 8:00 of July 22 to 8:00 of July 31, 2015.” It added that “during the above-mentioned period of time, no vessel is allowed to enter the designated maritime areas.” The statement outlined a set of coordinates demarcating the area where the exercise would take place. The defense ministry described the exercise as routine, and as a “military exercise that does not target any other country.”

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Report: Chinese Navy Warship Rammed Two Vietnamese Fishing Vessels

By: Sam LaGrone - USNI
August 7, 2015



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A People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) amphibious warship allegedly rammed two Vietnamese fishing vessels operating near the disputed Spratly Islands in July, according to local press cited in an Office of Naval Intelligence threat to shipping report.

According to accounts of the fisherman, reported in the Nguoi Lao Dong newspaper, about 15 nautical miles off the western coast of the Spratlys on July 21 “a strange iron-clad Chinese ship numbered 994 suddenly appeared and approached [the fishing vessel] sounding its horn.”

The ship then sprayed the vessels with water cannon and precipitated a 30-minute chase.
“In order to avoid a possible collision, I tried to steer my boat away, but the strange ship still chased after and then rammed it on the right side,” captain Nguyen Nhat Ngoc said to the paper.






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Watch Out China: Vietnam's Coast Guard Will Fight Back
A new Vietnamese regulation will allow its coast guard to use weapons to deter and repel ships.


By Ankit Panda
September 11, 2015

Starting October 20, 2015, Vietnamese coast guard vessels will be permitted to use on-board weapons to deter and repel foreign boats. According to a report by Vietnam’s Thanh Nien news agency, the country’s government has introduced a new regulation which allows the coast guard to play a more active role in defense. The move is almost certainly a response to concerns about China’s attempts at asserting its claims to waters disputed between it and Vietnam, best encapsulated in last summer’s stand-off over China’s Haiyang Shiyou 981 oil rig, which entered Vietnam’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ). Chinese and Vietnamese vessels rammed and capsized each other at the time, and vessels from both sides exchanged water cannon fire.

The new rules could mean that should another major stand-off between China and Vietnam occur, the possibility of escalation to an all-out kinetic conflict will be much greater. Vietnam’s move also mirror’s China’s own efforts to create a “second navy” through the militarization of its white-hulled maritime law enforcement and coast guard vessels. According to Thanh Nien, the Vietnamese coast guard will be permitted to use force “until the foreign boats are completely out of Vietnamese waters.” Vietnam continues to claim the entirety of the Paracel Islands, which China administers as part of Hainan province.

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Is conflict between these neighbours inevitable? Perhaps if China continues moving its oil rigs closer to territory more heavily guarded by Vietnam.

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Averting a China-Vietnam Military Clash
The risk of confrontation is rising, and Washington should help defuse tensions.


By Joshua Kurlantzick
September 25, 2015

The risk of a military confrontation between China and Vietnam is rising. Although the two countries have enjoyed close party-to-party ties for decades, since 2011 they have both asserted conflicting claims to the South China Sea. Beijing claims 90 percent of the sea as its exclusive economic zone. China has repeatedly moved oil rigs into disputed areas, dredged and occupied parts of the disputed Paracel Islands, and constructed at least one and potentially multiple airstrips, possibly for military use, in the Spratly Islands.

Vietnam has also tried to use oil explorations to claim disputed areas of the sea and reportedly has rammed Chinese vessels in disputed waters. Vietnam has cultivated close military ties to the United States, to other Southeast Asian nations like the Philippines, and to regional powers such as India, all to the consternation of China. In addition, Vietnam and China increasingly compete for influence in mainland Southeast Asia, where Vietnam had dominated between the 1970s and late 2000s.

These growing sources of friction could lead to a serious military confrontation between the two countries in the next twelve to eighteen months, with potentially significant consequences for the United States. Accordingly, the United States should seek to defuse tensions and help avert a serious crisis.

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Hanoi and Beijing taking a more conciliatory route despite the recent clash over the Chinese oil rig moved near to the Paracels/SCS?

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A New Confidence-Building Process for the South China Sea?

Confidence-building over the South China Sea isn’t easy, but a recent meeting in Vietnam shows that it is possible
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By Bill Hayton
November 26, 2015

A half-day meeting in Vietnam on Wednesday could mark the beginning of a new confidence-building process in the South China Sea. The meeting, held in Vietnam’s oil city Vung Tau, involved delegates and observers from all the claimants including China, Taiwan, and little-heard Brunei.

Although the meeting was held behind closed doors, the agenda was made public. Delegates discussed practical steps toward implementing initiatives agreed to over a decade ago in the “Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea” between China and the countries of the Association of Southeast Nations. Time was spent on freedom of navigation, environmental protection, joint development, and maritime connectivity. Perhaps most interestingly, the final session discussed “institutional arrangements for consultation/negotiation and implementation of cooperative activities.”

The event was organized by the Diplomatic Academy of Vietnam – the foreign ministry’s think tank – on the sidelines of its annual South China Sea conference. Participants included government officials from Malaysia, Indonesia, Taiwan, and Vietnam, as well as locally-based diplomats from Brunei, Taiwan, and Indonesia. There were no Chinese or Philippine governmental delegates but several senior academics with direct connections to ministries in both countries did take part.

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Vietnam demands that China remove oil rig





(Associated Press) | Updated January 20, 2016 - 7:19pm

HANOI — Vietnam said China has moved an oil rig into disputed waters in the South China Sea, in a possible repeat of a 2014 stand-off between the communist neighbors.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Le Hai Binh said in a statement posted on the ministry's website late Tuesday that Vietnam has raised concerns with China over the movement of Haiyang Shiyou oil rig, and has demanded that China stop any drilling and remove the rig from the area where the two countries' continental shelves overlap and have not been demarcated.

"Vietnam demands that China not conduct any drilling activities and withdraw Hai Duong 981 oil rig from this area," he said, using the Vietnamese name for the oil rig.


http://www.philstar.com/world/2016/01/20/1544610/vietnam-demands-china-remove-oil-rig
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China deploys missiles on disputed South China Sea island - report

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February 17th, 2016



WASHINGTON, United States - China has deployed a surface-to-air missile system on one of its contested islands in the South China Sea, a report said Tuesday just as President Barack Obama called for “tangible steps” to reduce tensions in the region.

Images from civilian firm ImageSat International show two batteries of eight missile launchers and a radar system arrived within the past week on Woody Island, part of the Paracels chain.

The report on the missile batteries came as Obama wrapped up a two-day Southeast Asian summit in California where leaders voiced concern over Beijing’s military build-up in the strategic and resource-rich area.


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There goes the confidence building process. No one can simply trust China to do what it says. IMO, they need to be embarrassed again one way or another. Not necessarily force vs force. There are other ways.
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China deploys missiles on disputed South China Sea island - report

Agence France-Presse
February 17th, 2016



WASHINGTON, United States - China has deployed a surface-to-air missile system on one of its contested islands in the South China Sea, a report said Tuesday just as President Barack Obama called for “tangible steps” to reduce tensions in the region.

Images from civilian firm ImageSat International show two batteries of eight missile launchers and a radar system arrived within the past week on Woody Island, part of the Paracels chain.

The report on the missile batteries came as Obama wrapped up a two-day Southeast Asian summit in California where leaders voiced concern over Beijing’s military build-up in the strategic and resource-rich area.


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China sends missiles to contested South China Sea island - Taiwan
February 17, 2016
By J.R. WU AND ANDREA SHALAL, Reuters


Taiwan defense ministry spokesman Major General David Lo told Reuters the missile batteries had been set up on Woody Island. The island is part of the Paracels chain, under Chinese control for more than 40 year but also claimed by Taiwan and Vietnam.

The missiles arrived at Woody Island over the past week, Fox News said. According to the images, a beach on the island was empty on Feb. 3, but the missiles were visible by Feb. 14, it reported.

A US official told Fox News the imagery viewed appears to show the HQ-9 air defense system, which has a range of 125 miles (200 km) and would pose a threat to any airplanes, civilian or military, flying close by.

Asked about the report, Bill Urban, a Pentagon spokesman, said: "While I cannot comment on matters related to intelligence, we do watch these matters very closely." - Reuters


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The Hong Qi 9 or HQ-9 is a Chinese air defense missile system. It is broadly equivalent to the Russian S-300. Some sources report that the HQ-9 was developed with Russian assistance and benefits from Russian technology transfers. It has been report that it was adopted by the Chinese armed forces in 1997. Its export version, the FD-2000, has been exported to Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. Pakistan and Turkey are negotiating with China to purchase this air defense system.

The HQ-9 can intercept various aircraft, helicopters, UAVs, cruise missiles, air-to-ground missiles, guided bombs and theater ballistic missiles at medium- to long ranges.

The HQ-9 surface-to-air missile system was developed much later than the Russian S-300 and incorporates advancements in the electronics. Notably it employs newer computing technology.

The HQ-9 uses two-stage missiles with thrust vector control. Missiles have a range of 125 km against aircraft and 15-25 km against cruise and ballistic missiles. Missiles can reach aircraft at an altitude of 27 km and cruise and ballistic missiles at an altitude of 15-25 km. The missile has inertial guidance with mid-course update and terminal active radar homing. This air defense system can perform air defense engagement in a massive air raid under intense electronic jamming.

The HQ-9 launcher is based on Taian TA5380 8x8 high mobility chassis. Each launcher has 4 missiles in individual containers. Missiles are launcher vertically.

A battery of HQ-9 consists of 8 TEL vehicles with missiles, mobile engagement radar based on Taian TA5570 10x10 chassis, engagement radar based on a North-Benz ND1260 series truck chassis, command and control vehicle, reloading vehicles and various support vehicles. The basic formation can be expanded into a larger formation. The HQ-9 battery can employ a wide range of radars, both search, surveillance, acquisition, tracking and fire control.


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