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China tightening grip on Spratlys; merge threads, updates
Topic Started: Jun 25 2012, 06:46 PM (30,297 Views)
dewey
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it is their next step to totally controlling wps. :brrt:
IDI@T!!! COWARD!!!
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dewey
Jan 10 2014, 09:29 PM
it is their next step to totally controlling wps. :brrt:

It will only be a step fulfilled if you do nothing. :scared:


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its not only us who is concerned with this. its everybody's concern if china takes control of the wps
IDI@T!!! COWARD!!!
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Vigilance has a price and some people are slow in paying up.
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Philippines 'gravely concerned' about China fishing rule

""We are gravely concerned by this new regulation that would require foreign fishing vessels to obtain approval from Chinese regional authorities before fishing or surveying in a large portion of the South China Sea," DFA said in a statement.

The foreign ministry believes China's unilateral declaration does not help solve the territorial dispute over the West Philippine Sea/South China Sea. The Philippines adds that it violates the United National Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)."

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/01/10/1277370/philippines-gravely-concerned-about-china-fishing-rule


while everybody is protesting and talking, china is doing. very dangerous :brrt:
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Jan 10 2014, 09:23 PM
China's recent statements must be weighted very carefully and accordingly. On one hand, if we let the Chinese do this, we might have a chance of not making the status quo change to a full-blown war, until the time that we might be ready to take on what the Chinese could give out, realistically speaking. I mean, it's rather improbable that the PLA would send out everything that it has just for the sake of those godforsaken islands, right? However, this includes the disadvantage that we might not be able to do much about the situation of Filipino fishermen, which is a bad PR strategy and that makes the government look like as if it is not doing anything. (Which is true, in a relative sense; they haven't made any hard stance in these recent events. Yet.)

However, there is also another option, which personally, I consider to be rather distasteful. It could be compared to the "Madman theory" that was popularized by my second-favorite American president, Lyndon B. Johnson. It goes along like this; we should actually make provocations and step up the ante in terms of military acquisitions (most specifically in the branches of PN, PAF and Marines) and operations (flybys, intentional targeting by fire-finding radar, flare-dropping close to PLAN ships, etc.) up until we manage to get the Chinese thinking that, "We must not press the Philippines, for Pete's sake, look at what they could do with something so few! Look how desperate they are, they're totally willing to send out everything against we have!" One good thing about this strategy is that we could wield our MDT with the U.S. like a big stick against the Chinese; we could state that if they dare to shoot down even one of our observation planes or scratch one of our patrol ships, we could invoke that as a cassus belli and enter a war with China, while invoking MDT in the process, thereby making the ensuing war as fair as a real-on basketball match between any UAAP Team and the U.S. Basketball Dream Team. The biggest disadvantage of this is that this is also a bad PR strategy; it would make us look like the aggressors, thereby robbing us of the moral bedrock we need to invoke MDT and NOT get the American government sprayed on with much controversy. Seeing how China could easily and plainly pull a "Philippines-goes-to-UNCLOS" act like it did with Japan, this plan could backfire on us.

Insofar, these two are the only effective strategies I could see that we could apply, short of bowing completely to Chinese aggression.
Para, sounds good to me. These bastards think that we cannot respond to their encroachment. We should keep busy keeping them at bay just like what Japan is doing. See post Japan Plans to Register 280 islands.

I'm more to developing the Pag-Asa Island as the focal point of entrenching our foothold on those islands. ie, full throttle in upgrading airstrip, port and landing, upgrade the school, put up a Spratly Recreation Gym inviting China, Vietnam, Taiwan for friendly basketball games, put up a "pension house" or "Spratly Hotel" whether we will have tourist or not, invite foreigners, set up a Spratly tourist information center building, a Spratly Health Center Building, do a master plan in developing tourism in Spratlys, etc. These will indirectly throw a finger at them without military confrontation.
Para, as far as your suggestion, I would put a long range radar such as ELM-2080 Green Pine or AN/TPS-75 after these upgrades are completed in the middle of the island. That should make the dragon squeal. We will be able to monitor the entire skies of the Spratly island chain atbp. If we can afford to buy two MPA's at over $100m then this is doable.
See the word Spratly in every thing we do? That has a long term effect.
Edited by Santi Kampilan, Jan 11 2014, 01:52 AM.
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Wow! Looks like the start of something BIG...?

It's called "Enter the Dragon" (9 dash line execution plan)

Something has to be done in order to shut them up really.. I'm sorry to say this, but don't expect anything what so ever from now till 2016 and don't be surprised if we lose more territories from now till 2016, they're all part of the PLAN. :dunno: :sad2:


In my opinion, a threat of possible PH/US FOB in Pag-asa Island (if the. US agrees) should foil China's illegal plans in WPS/ SCS, coupled w/ PH/ US base in Subic.
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^-these should complicate things and keep WPS/ SCS traffic busy, to allow lots of PH/US Navy assets to ply these areas on a regular basis at the same time, the re-taking control of Panatag shoal w/ the help of the US should send a strong signal, for the area is truly long been part of PH territory, an area that should be secured for the coming of PH/US temporary base in Subic.
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What I would do if I'm in command?

Redeploy SARV 001, 002, 003 and 004 immediately to safeguard Filipino fishing fleets.

Being '' Gravely concerned'' is not enough. They dont care about protests anymore.
Edited by Uruzu, Jan 11 2014, 07:15 AM.
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China defends South China Sea fishing rule

Japan today article



BEIJING —

Beijing on Friday rejected U.S. criticism of a measure requiring foreign fishing vessels to secure permission to enter much of the South China Sea, which it claims almost in its entirety.

The rule—which comes as tensions have escalated over overlapping claims with the Philippines, Vietnam and other nations—was called “provocative” by the U.S.

But it is largely identical to an existing measure from 2004, and reports said similar rules had also been declared in 1998 and 1993.

As well as the South China Sea dispute, Beijing is embroiled in a bitter row with Japan over small uninhabited islands in the East China Sea.

Beijing insisted the latest move was aimed at protecting fishing resources.

“We express dissatisfaction and opposition” to the U.S. reaction, Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a regular press briefing.

“If someone insists on calling technical revisions to a local fishing regulation that has already been implemented for years a matter of regional tension, a threat to regional stability, then all I can say is, this is either a lack of basic common sense or some ulterior motive.”

The measure took effect last week after being passed in November by China’s southern island province of Hainan, and echoed previous rules making the same demand.

It states that foreign fishing vessels and individuals entering Hainan-administered waters “should obtain permission from the relevant authority”.

The rule applies to two million square kilometers of waters covered by Hainan, the official Xinhua news agency reported last month, without specifying the exact area or potential enforcement measures.

But that total area accounts for a large part of the South China Sea, portions of which are also claimed by the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan.

The U.S. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki on Thursday called the move a “provocative and potentially dangerous act”.

The Philippines’ foreign department said in a statement on Friday it was “gravely concerned” by the move.

Separately, China is facing growing tensions with fellow Asian giant Japan over islands in the East China Sea that have raised concerns of an unintended conflict.

China’s declaration of an Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) over an area covering the disputed islands triggered an international furor in November.

The ADIZ requires foreign aircraft to declare their intentions and maintain communications with Chinese authorities or face unspecified “defensive emergency measures”.

© 2014 AFP

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