| Welcome to Philippines Defense Forces Forum. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| US & China Square Off Over South China Sea | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 01:32 PM (27,750 Views) | |
| Ayoshi | Feb 6 2014, 02:31 PM Post #61 |
![]()
|
US challenges Beijing's sea claims based on ‘nine-dash line’ (gmanetwork.com)
|
![]() |
|
| raider1011 | Feb 8 2014, 01:12 AM Post #62 |
![]()
|
China’s Careful Days By Felix Imonti | Thu, 30 January 2014
Edited by raider1011, Feb 8 2014, 01:15 AM.
|
|
God grant me the courage not to give up what I think is right even though I think it is hopeless. || Chester W. Nimitz Loyalty to the Nation ALL the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it. || Mark Twain | |
![]() |
|
| pachador | Feb 8 2014, 01:56 AM Post #63 |
![]()
|
some reporters are looking simplistically and declaring that the philippines 'lost' scarborough. we just withdrew because of the astronomical cost of fuel keeping ships there 24 hours a day, among other reasons. as long as no structures are built there, its no big deal. what is a big deal however is if our fishermen are not allowed to fish there although latest news indicate that they have been allowed by the bully to fish there again the moment of truth will arrive after UNCLOS issues a ruling on the west philippine sea case, if it is in our favor then, by that time the new PCG ships will have arrived and the philippines can legally enforce bumping, ramming boarding foreign shipping boats since unclos ruled in our favor, its also easier for the pcg and pn to be more 'forceful' against the bully even if they are much more powerful since we are legally' covered by the unclos ruling if the bully resorts to violence - meaning its much easier for the UN body to issue condemnations and for europe,japan and US to intervene since the UNLOS ruling legally protects intervention by concerned countries - there is no gray areas in other words as there is pure naked aggression involved- as far as the UNCLOS and UN by extension is concerned. to elaborate further, once UNCLOs decides in our fsvor, then the dispute or argument between the bully and us over who owns who is over, since unclos ruling is final and non-appealable(if i'm not mistaken). if the bully ships continue to insist on blocking scarborough or malampaya etc, then the bully will be violating a UN ruling , if for example we ram ourselves into an area that UNCLOS has already ruled as ours, we have every right since UNCLOS has ruled its ours, and if the bully uses force to kick us out violently then thats grounds for an allied intervention(read that U.S. , Japan, india, australia) already. and remember we have mutual defense treaty with uncle sam. Edited by pachador, Feb 8 2014, 07:00 AM.
|
![]() |
|
| Ayoshi | Feb 8 2014, 07:53 AM Post #64 |
![]()
|
Beijing is seeing just how far it can push the envelope, for it banking on the assumption that the United States, currently bunkrupt and war-weary nation will not want to directly confront China over such minor claims. Indeed, look what just happened in Scarborough Shoal, Mischeef Reef, and in Paracel Islands. an Old Article dated January 31, 2014. How Richard Nixon Would Deter China (thediplomat.com)
|
![]() |
|
| gammy322 | Feb 10 2014, 09:33 PM Post #65 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Beijing slams 'irresponsible' US warning on South China Sea By: Agence France-Presse February 10, 2014 8:35 PM BEIJING - China condemned the US Pacific air force commander Monday for "irresponsible remarks" after he warned it would be provocative if Beijing declared an air defense zone over the South China Sea. The response ratchets up a war of words also involving the Philippines and Japan over territorial disputes in the South and East China Seas respectively. Beijing set up an "air defence identification zone" (ADIZ) over the latter waters in November that included contested islands claimed by it and Tokyo, prompting condemnation by Washington. Amid concerns Beijing may do the same to assert territorial claims in the South China Sea, US Pacific Air Force Commander Herbert Carlisle said on Sunday such a step would be "very provocative". At a regular press briefing on Monday, China's foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying hit back, saying that "setting up an air defence identification zone is a reasonable right for any sovereign state to exercise. http://www.interaksyon.com/article/80483/beijing-slams-irresponsible-us-warning-on-south-china-sea |
![]() |
|
| seWer Rat | Feb 11 2014, 07:21 PM Post #66 |
|
amateur sewer cleaner
![]()
|
US program challenges Beijing's South China Sea claims Before the US secretary of state, John Kerry, begins his second visit to China and his fifth to Asia, the China Youth Daily — the official newspaper of the Communist Youth League of China — stated that the Freedom of Navigation program announced by Jimmy Carter in 1979 stands in the way of Beijing's attempts to "reclaim" its territories in the disputed East and South China seas. As about 50% of all world maritime transport goes through the South China Sea, maritime security is among the issues that Kerry will discuss with the Chinese authorities, said Jennifer Psaki, spokesperson for the State Department. Daniel Russel, US assistant secretary of state for East Asia and Pacific Affairs, said on Feb. 5 that there were "growing concerns" that China is trying to gradually assert control over the area in the face of objections from its neighbors. "This includes continued restrictions on access to Scarborough Shoal, pressure on the longstanding Philippine presence at the Second Thomas Shoal and the recent updating of fishing regulations covering disputed areas in the South China Sea," said Russel. "Our view is that these actions have raised tensions in the region and have exacerbated concerns about China's long-term strategic objectives." For this reason, he suggested Beijing refrain from establishing an air defense identification zone (ADIZ) over the region as it did with the East China Sea late last year. "Any use of the 'nine-dash line' to claim maritime rights must be based on land features, such as a nation's coastline or its islands," said Russel, "Any Chinese claim to maritime rights not based on claimed land features would be inconsistent with international law. China could highlight its respect for international law by clarifying or adjusting its claim to bring it into accordance with international law of the sea," Russel said. more |
| To avoid criticism, write nothing, say nothing, do nothing, BE NOTHING. | |
![]() |
|
| seWer Rat | Feb 12 2014, 06:31 PM Post #67 |
|
amateur sewer cleaner
![]()
|
US to bring 'very best' forces in Southeast Asia amid sea row MANILA, Philippines - As part of the Obama administration's rebalancing strategy, the United States will position its top armed forces capabilities in the Asia Pacific, a ranking military official said. US Pacific Command chief Admiral Samuel Locklear said that American forces are working to have a "huge impact" in the region's security. "We're also gonna ensure that the forces that we have forwarded are the very best of what we could produce, that US can produce," Locklear said in a recent video by East Asia and Pacific Media Hub. "We'll put our very best destroyers here, our very best ballistic missile offense here, our very best airplanes here, our very best people here," he elaborated. He said this amid China's increasing assertiveness in claiming 80 percent of South China Sea, opposing exclusive economic zones of its neighbors including the Philippines. Alongside such maritime tension, the US' Asian allies including the Philippines, will also have a boost in their military strength in the coming years, Locklear said. more |
| To avoid criticism, write nothing, say nothing, do nothing, BE NOTHING. | |
![]() |
|
| Hong Nam | Feb 23 2014, 07:48 PM Post #68 |
|
Bought by China
![]()
|
Iran knocked out of the top spot by China as US' greatest enemy: Gallup Staff Reporter 2014-02-22 China has replaced Iran and North Korea as America's greatest enemy, according to research and consulting firm Gallup, headquartered in the US. The shift was caused by Iran's agreement to limit its capability and China's growing economic power. Want China Times Edited by Hong Nam, Feb 23 2014, 08:09 PM.
|
![]() Constructions Mecaniques de Normandie - C Sword 90 | |
![]() |
|
| Ayoshi | Feb 24 2014, 10:39 PM Post #69 |
![]()
|
US envoy warns against altering status quo in South China Sea (gmanetwork.com) February 24, 2014
|
![]() |
|
| Ayoshi | Mar 6 2014, 05:11 PM Post #70 |
![]()
|
US questions China intentions, amid budget hike (mb.com.ph) March 6, 2014
|
![]() |
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · West Philippine Sea · Next Topic » |









![]](http://z1.ifrm.com/static/1/pip_r.png)


8:30 AM Jul 11