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| jvelarde | Sep 29 2007, 10:25 AM Post #51 |
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Won't it make more sense not to train more pilots until we get more aircraft? |
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| akimima | Sep 29 2007, 11:38 AM Post #52 |
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well the problem here is that if you don't train, there will be no pilots to fly the planes whether the antiquated planes of the PAF or commercial airlines. Training these pilots is just like a double edged sword, you get hurt on either sides.
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| "Our arrows will blot out the sun!" quoted by the invading Persian commander. "Then we will fight in the shade!" quote from 300 Spartans. | |
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| jvelarde | Sep 30 2007, 05:18 AM Post #53 |
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Gotcha. So the PAF Flying School is also acting as a "free" flying school for commercial airlines, both domestic and international. I don't begrudge the graduates of the PAFFS of going civilian after their contracts are over with the PAF. After all, they have families to feed and the PAF can only afford military salaries and mostly antique aircraft. I just hope that these PAFFS graduates fulfill the minimum number of years of service before going to greener pastures. |
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| Tora^2 | Jun 2 2008, 03:27 AM Post #54 |
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And you thought the PAF's worse problem is a shortage of decent aircraft
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JOIN UP! POWER UP! DO MORE MORE WITH LESS! | |
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| rocky serrantes | Jun 2 2008, 09:05 AM Post #55 |
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SPECIAL REPORT Dedicated PAF pilots shun high pay of airlines Silver lining in dark clouds By Tarra Quismundo Philippine Daily Inquirer First Posted 01:44:00 06/02/2008 Most Read Other Most Read StoriesxClose this(First of two parts) MANILA, Philippines—As dark clouds hang over the Philippine Air Force and pilots look for silver linings elsewhere, two veteran flyers carry out rescue missions with the enthusiasm of young aviators on their inaugural flight. Saving lives is the wind beneath the wings of Captains George Padua and Dante Mirambil Jr., both helicopter pilots of the PAF 505th Search and Rescue Group (SRG). *edited - same as above post |
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| Tora^2 | Jun 2 2008, 02:21 PM Post #56 |
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Dude, laki naman ng fonts sa post moI posted the article earlier here Mods, please merge our threads. Thx
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JOIN UP! POWER UP! DO MORE MORE WITH LESS! | |
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| el_ramon | Jun 2 2008, 10:31 PM Post #57 |
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dang 2 na lang ang operational na S-76? |
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| strikeeagle | Jun 3 2008, 09:50 AM Post #58 |
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I salute those who stay . I understand those who go, siympre they have to think about their kids future. Pero kung magagwan ng govt at sa tulong na rin ng mga private companies na mabigyan ng hind lang benefits but livelihood or sme para sa kanilang mga mrs o pamilya marami siguro magdadalwang isip umalis, we all know that "flying" and defending our country is their first love.
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| israeli | Jun 3 2008, 09:21 PM Post #59 |
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For some PAF pilots, nothing beats flying mercy missions Silver lining in dark clouds By Tarra Quismundo Philippine Daily Inquirer First Posted 01:29:00 06/03/2008 Read Part 1: Dedicated PAF pilots shun high pay of airlines (06/02/08) (Second of two parts) MANILA, Philippines—The Philippine Air Force C-130 barreled through stormy skies and touched down seamlessly on an airstrip unmarked on the aviator's map. A crowd of hungry evacuees applauded as the Hercules approached, not because it was carrying seven tons of emergency supplies but because it was a rare bird that came to visit Borongan town in Samar province. "People were clapping because it was the first time they saw a C-130," says Lt. Gen. Pedrito Cadungog, the PAF chief, recounting what Defense Secretary Gilberto Teodoro Jr., who was on the relief flight, had told him. Ten days of continuous rains had submerged towns and isolated villages in the province in February, triggering the worst flooding in Samar's history. For Maj. Manuel Zambrano, the man behind the Hercules' wheel, such flights to disaster zones that allow him to serve suffering masses are what keeps him in the force in spite of the lure of better pay in commercial aviation. Over the past two years, more than 100 pilots had left the PAF, including some of the finest and brightest aces, for greener pastures. Not Zambrano. Nothing pumps the adrenalin more than flying on missions to places like flood-stricken northern Samar. Last week, a C-130 ferried a 30-member Philippine medical contingent on a mercy mission to cyclone-ravaged Burma (Myanmar), along with 12 tons of urgently needed medicine and relief supplies. "Where will you have a job where you'll be given a chance to do that? Not in the airlines," Zambrano says. "That's one of the reasons I'm still here. It's very fulfilling. "What is given us, we do more in return," the 17-year PAF pilot says. "The military can really help in national development. There's really ROI (return on investment). If only they give us enough funding to keep our machines flying, it will go back to the government, it will go back to the nation in disaster response, in national development." Flight to Yogyakarta The flight to Samar reminded Zambrano of his mission to Yogyakarta, Indonesia, in May 2006 to ferry aid and 20 medical workers in an earthquake-stricken area. "I was so touched. They don't know us, but everybody there was bowing to us. We're just doing our job but they saw us as lifesavers," he says. He experienced the same thing in Borongan. "The people on the airstrip welcomed us. They all wanted to see the aircraft," Zambrano says. Describing the plane he has grown to love, he says: "It's not a beautiful aircraft. But it's a face that a mother can love ... especially when it is carrying relief goods." His crew gamely gave Hercules' fans an impromptu 101 on the aircraft, including a briefer on how it worked, capacity and engine power. Besides the C-130, a PAF rescue chopper helped Samar officials penetrate a sub-village that had been isolated by floods for five days. Maj. Butch Guevara of the PAF's 505th Search and Rescue Group says the command's Huey 2 was dispatched from Mactan, Cebu, to help bring aid to some 120 families in inundated Sitio Balogo in Barangay Balangkayan. The chopper also airlifted aid to the towns of Maslog and Jipapad. Heartbreaking, fulfilling "It was both heartbreaking and fulfilling. Once we landed, the children were hugging us. They were really, really hungry and the initial first aid we could give them were hugs," Guevara says. Some flights can be heart-rending. Zambrano piloted the C-130 that airlifted to Manila the bodies of 15 Marines slain in Basilan province in August last year. In Borongan, Zambrano and his crew of 10 men flew almost 15,000 lb (roughly seven tons) of rice, canned goods, noodles, tents, mattresses, and clothes on their first flight to Samar on Feb. 20, landing on the nearest airstrip to disaster-hit towns. On board were Teodoro and aid workers. "Actually, we treated it as an ordinary mission. But having VIPs as passengers, SND (Secretary of National Defense Teodoro) who is also a pilot and his aides who are all pilots, there was pressure. You have to fly there for the first time and there's the pressure because you have to impress your passengers," Zambrano says. Nothing but airstrip Bad weather rendered the skies overcast on the PAF's maiden flight to the airstrip, a stretch of pavement strong enough for the military plane to land but unequipped with navigation aids. The airstrip, constructed in the 1990s and has since been used only by private aircraft, also lacks a ramp and a passenger terminal. Making do with what was there, the PAF's crew had no option but to just park the plane on the runway itself. Zambrano had to slow down to ease turbulence, extending by 10 minutes a flight that was supposed to take an hour and 10 minutes. The PAF's second flight the next day experienced even worse turbulence, but Zambrano's earlier flight helped him navigate by land references on his return. The second sortie carried close to 10 tons of relief goods to Borongan, aid packs later distributed to affected towns. The C-130 could carry more, Zambrano says, but the load was the maximum weight the Borongan runway could take during touchdown. A bit sentimental "When we were there, military personnel could not help but be a bit sentimental and we felt this is the better mission, this is the better operation that we handle. We're not fighting our brothers but helping our brothers," he says. "We feel that if only we were not busy fighting the other side, we can improve our disaster response because the money that we're using to fight them can be diverted to our disaster operations." |
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| gigumaku | Jun 4 2008, 09:20 AM Post #60 |
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---------- KOREKEK! All of these are true. ---------- Vietnam war Hueys, AS-211s, MD-520MGs and OV-10s are more than enough to wipe out internal threats. --------- But, we are P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C = PATHETIC, I will say it again - PATHETIC - when it comes to external defense. ---------- Word for the day : PATHETIC - Deserving or inciting pity synonyms : miserable, hapless, unfortunate, poor depressed Filipino translations : kawawa, poorita, taong-grasa, nanglilimos, alabado... hehehe, ano pa? ---------- peace out! ---------- |
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I salute those who stay . I understand those who go, siympre they have to think about their kids future. Pero kung magagwan ng govt at sa tulong na rin ng mga private companies na mabigyan ng hind lang benefits but livelihood or sme para sa kanilang mga mrs o pamilya marami siguro magdadalwang isip umalis, we all know that "flying" and defending our country is their first love.


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