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| Aquino won't risk PH prosperity over a few "Rocks"? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 29 2014, 10:10 PM (1,486 Views) | |
| Andres Boning | Apr 29 2014, 10:10 PM Post #1 |
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Aquino won't risk PH prosperity over a few "Rocks"????
Sea disputes are not the end-all and be-all of the Philippines’ relations with China, Aquino said. He added that aside from prosperity, “there should be stability.” “We have to find ways and means to achieve respective goals if we want to strive for prosperity of our peoples,” Aquino said, answering questions about China.
This, even as the Philippines in March filed a memorial before an international arbitration body to protest China’s allegedly over broad territorial claims. In his joint press conference with Obama in Malacanang Monday, Aquino also shrugged off concerns that the new defense deal with the U.S. will also further antagonize its Asian rival. Chinese and Philippine vessels have also recently squared off near Ayungin Shoal, a portion of the Spratly Islands where an old ship serves as a Filipino outpost. Aquino’s remarks came after Obama assured the Philippines of support in its move to peacefully resolve its territorial dispute with China through international arbitration. Obama however said U.S. is not taking any stand in disputes between nations, even as he noted that it is against “coercion and intimidation” to end conflict. “We have a constructive relationship with China,” Obama said. “We welcome China's peaceful rise. There’s enormous trade between the U.S. and China,” he added. Manila and Washington on Monday signed the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement aimed at increasing American troops’ rotational presence in the Philippines. https://ph.news.yahoo.com/aquino-won-t-risk-ph--prosperity--over--few-rocks-091119043.html ----------------- I can't believe I'm hearing this coming from the Pres. of the Philippines???? The Philippines huge "Prosperity" are under those "Rocks", under the WPS Philippine EEZ territory and it all starts there "m???n"!!!! Again, deception is at work through media, trying to hide or keep it just for yourself and your gang of Oligs to benefit.. This is just for the Country, for the Filipino People's benefit. So PNoy's comment here justifies ALL and as to why his Govt. have always been "PASSIVE" against China's intrusions, occupation of "Panatag Shoal"?? Just don't know how the real old patriotic politician folks will react on this one? or are they all Dead...? Is there any grounds for impeachment on this one... As Pres. Obama looked on, maybe got surprised by this particular comment...? Edited by Andres Boning, Apr 29 2014, 10:44 PM.
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| Andres Boning | Apr 30 2014, 02:36 AM Post #2 |
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I think PNoy have forgotten that as the President of the Philippines, he has the obligation to defend every inch of Philippine territory against any country like China as what stated in the Phil Constitution. if you neglect Panatag shoal or Thomas Shoal then you are a traitor against Philippines and Filipino people and favour your Chinese ancestor in disguise of a true Filipino favouring the American President for the sake of Media Publicity. This particular comment is unacceptable and so anti-nationalistic coming from the President of the Philippines. Who's PROSPERITY??? As if he only thinks maybe of rich Oligarchs and prosperity of the rich Chinese businessman pretending to be a Filipino, dishonest politicians who doesn't know anything but to squeeze the blood of the Filipino people. Those few rocks that he's talking about are rich in Fishing grounds, where present local Filipino fishermen and their ancestors had been sourcing their livelihoods for decades, but now is lost.. Thanks to you Mr. President. With due respect, that remark is pretty lame, it may just be rocks but the vast amounts of oil reserves under the surface is the reason why China is positioning itself to get these resources in the future. |
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| Santi Kampilan | Apr 30 2014, 07:12 AM Post #3 |
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That piece of rock (Scarborough) is probably the most important rock there is for the Philippines. If the we truly own that piece of a rock that will debunk the 9 dash line scam and literally kick all those PLAN ships plying the Palawan Passage. On the contrary if we do not meet the Chinese head on with their aggressive moves, we can literally see the last of the oil and gas platform West of Malampaya along the Palawan Passage. You can kiss goodbye PNOY's famous phrase " if you step on Reed Bank it's like stepping on Recto Avenue". I hope that was not just a lip service. I hope he meant it with all his heart. Baka pusong mamon/monay. Like Andres is saying what's at stake is not just fishing grounds but oil and gas fields that stretches from Northern Palawan to Sabah along that Passage corridor. You are talking hundreds of billion if not trillions of dollars. |
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| Pninety8 | Apr 30 2014, 11:49 AM Post #4 |
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No need to over-react on statements like this. That joint conference has an international audience. The message was made for special viewers, like the international business community, govt analysts, and China. I wont be quick to brand PNoy as being un-nationalistic or anything, given the body of works he has done in strengthening our territorial defense and trying to win via diplomacy and international rule of law. My take on his statement is that PNoy and the govt wants to hold on to the a high moral position in its dealing with China. China is already a bully in the eye of the international community and we need to keep it that way. He is assuring the international viewers that our govt remains committed to a peaceful process despite that newly signed EDCA and stronger presence of US troops. It would be pointless for us to highten the rhetoric during a POTUS visit, which could escalate the situation diplomatically, and in the ground. |
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| Hong Nam | Apr 30 2014, 01:34 PM Post #5 |
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"Never push your adversary into a corner when you already have attained something no matter how small. It is a double edged sword and it surely cuts both ways. This is the sign that you all needed - the push to modernize - To start doing things on your own." - Hong Nam
Bravado doesn't count for anything if you have nothing to back it up. It's up to the Chinese on how they interpret these words and most of the time, it's better not to "spell it out" and keep them guessing. Edited by Hong Nam, Apr 30 2014, 04:22 PM.
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| Mckoyzzz | Apr 30 2014, 04:02 PM Post #6 |
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I had a discussion between a previous mod of this forum on his FB page for bashing the President regarding his statement about the "rocks" versus PH prosperity and I think I can apply it here as well... first of all, the comprehension of the statement depends on the interpretation and assumption of the ones reading the line, and how he wants to understand it... it can be taken as negative or positive... secondly, Pnoy is answering a direct question in a live press con filled with international media... sometimes we may say something different from what we really meant so we need to add this to the fact... if you watched the conference, even Obama is hesitant, vague and very careful on his statements because of the sensitivity of the PH-China-US issues... thirdly, he reiterated on his response that those "rocks" are mere rocks and not islands, in contention to what China is claiming it to be... in conjunction with PH case in UN Arbitration... fourthly, we need to remember that they are politicians and diplomats at the same time, and from my point of understanding, ,what he meant by that statement is that the PH is more keen (priority) on its economic prosperity through peaceful means rather than fight China head-on in a war and be in turmoil, lay to waste and lose everything for those mere "rocks" ... so, we can change that statement to, "It is not PH priority to go to war head-on and put to absolute risks its economy and people in exchange for 'rocks', however' we still insist that what is ours is ours and we have the right to defend our territories." fifthly, would we still doubt the President's intention on protecting what is ours if we based it on what he's been doing since he took the post, from making alliances with other more powerful countries, modernizing the AFP, signing defense agreements with other countries, fighting China's claims through arbitration, etc... should we just forget everything and all of that just because of a mere single line statement? |
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| Hong Nam | Apr 30 2014, 04:20 PM Post #7 |
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Might I add: "A single line statement subject to their own (personal) interpretation." Edited by Hong Nam, Apr 30 2014, 04:53 PM.
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| Pninety8 | Apr 30 2014, 04:21 PM Post #8 |
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Remarks by President Obama and President Benigno Aquino III of the Philippines in Joint Press Conference
POTUS talked about their version of 'rocks' dispute then PNoy followed it up about our own 'rocks' dispute. Its a joint press conference so there you go... Edited by Pninety8, Apr 30 2014, 04:25 PM.
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| Mckoyzzz | Apr 30 2014, 05:13 PM Post #9 |
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Thanks P... that's what I've been looking.. the full context of their statements... I think the reporter have taken it out of context by just singling out a one-liner... |
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| Hong Nam | Apr 30 2014, 10:55 PM Post #10 |
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Did he really say that? From the same website provided by Mr. Pninety8: Thanks
Amazing how a single journalist can twist and bend a story by omitting a few sentences - intentional, malicious, or simply a lack of comprehension? Even more amazing even is how fast one can "feed" on negativity. Reading the whole transcript indeed is enlightening. Then perhaps we wouldn't be so quick to judge. Edited by Hong Nam, May 1 2014, 02:57 AM.
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