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| Taz_1 | Oct 4 2014, 10:16 PM Post #641 |
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I think the decision for the infrastructure freeze was ill-conceived and the reasons they posed for the media are just another spin. |
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| Hong Nam | Oct 4 2014, 10:50 PM Post #642 |
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I agree with you. However... Admittedly with my limited knowledge on legal strategies and international law, I can't really make an intelligent assessment on this accurately. It's disappointing... but I leave it to those better versed on this matters. ![]() Well, not really disappointing. It's pissing me off! But definitely still more pissed at the Chinese bully and your politicians who doesn't recognize a threat until it bites them in the arse. Edited by Hong Nam, Oct 6 2014, 12:20 PM.
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| Hong Nam | Oct 6 2014, 06:12 PM Post #643 |
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Have any of you seen this? Is there a video of this online?
Never mind. I just found out that it will be shown next week - 12th of October. Edited by Hong Nam, Oct 6 2014, 06:21 PM.
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| Hong Nam | Oct 8 2014, 10:44 AM Post #644 |
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By way of shoulder tap, I found this a few hours ago. Sadly, it was in the Filipino language. So off I go to my nearest Filipino colleague and let him do the translation which means I start the day early with a few Cerveza San Miguels. Spratlys: Mga Isla ng Kalayaan - October 5, 2014 Full Episode Edited by Hong Nam, Oct 8 2014, 10:46 AM.
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| pachador | Oct 8 2014, 02:44 PM Post #645 |
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these are the 4 reefs that are of the most concern as they are all within the 200 mile EEZ of the philippines, and occupied by the bully: Scarborough shoal - 124 miles from Luzon Mischief reef - 130 miles from palawan - Mckennan(Chigua) reef - 180 miles from palawan Johnson(Mabini) reef - 180 miles from palawan The rest are in disputed seas and areas outside the 200 mile EEZ and belong to those who grabbed them first, e.g. pagasa island -claimed and occupied by philippines. of course since they are in international waters, more powerful countries can grab them if they really want to. Edited by pachador, Oct 8 2014, 02:48 PM.
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| Hong Nam | Oct 8 2014, 03:30 PM Post #646 |
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But those occupied by the bully are all underwater features. With a favourable ruling, technically they are illegal structures and thus rightfully yours. It may not be a smart idea to blast them to hell, but in all certainty you will have the right to do so. Even if they build artificial islands on those - under UNCLOS - they don't count and are not entitled to any territorial claim. Not even 3 nautical miles. Grabbing occupied islands beyond the 200nm EEZ with force will run the risk of a hostile confrontation. A risk that some may not take. It has been debated repeatedly whether you can invoke the Phil-US MDT if it ever comes to this. But then again, these are the Chinese we are talking about. The re.tards make their own laws and don't make sense at all. Which is why your congress and senate should stop thinking about themselves, put aside their own agendas (and lining their pockets) and start approving a larger budget allocation for your national defense. During your senate's hearing on the budget of defense: Why do both the upper and lower house members have to ask your military on the state of the WPS, what assets are available, and what are your armed forces doing to counter Chinese expansionism? Surely they (like everyone else) know that you have close to nothing! Save time, spare the inquiry and all the talk - grandstanding will not keep your enemies at bay. A Php 20B shortfall on the budget? Nobody really falls for the old excuse of your country as being poor. Actions and deeds make things happen. What is scariest here is the pessimist mindset - a defeatist attitude, and the eventual loss of hope will be your country's undoing. If this contagion spreads, then it will be all over. Give your men in uniform the equipment that they deserve and remind the world how a Filipino fights. You cannot depend on the yanquis forever and they would be more willing to commit to your defense (avoiding the vagueness of their statements) if you do your part. That's what Japan and South Korea are doing. Hence the crystal clear stance of the United States on their behalf. Edited by Hong Nam, Oct 9 2014, 10:41 AM.
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| Hong Nam | Oct 8 2014, 06:49 PM Post #647 |
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Depressing yet indeed an eye opener. I hereby propose that you vote to send two or three politicians on rotation to all these far flung outposts for at least 3 months. That should get things going. Edited by Hong Nam, Oct 14 2014, 09:30 PM.
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| Hong Nam | Oct 17 2014, 08:45 PM Post #648 |
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Chinese Navy Chief Conducts 'Unprecedented' Survey Of Spratly Islands By Michelle FlorCruz October 16 2014 Chinas appears to have made headway in the so-called ‘reclamation’ of disputed areas in the South China Sea, a project to create new land masses using reefs in areas claimed by both Beijing and its neighbors. According to Taiwan and Hong Kong news sources, China’s naval chief has been surveying islands located in disputed maritime territories, angering nations locked in territorial disputes with China such as the Philppines. Chinese admiral Wu Shengli, the commander of the People’s Liberation Army Navy, spent a week surveying the islands and reported that the approval for the mission came directly from China’s President Xi Jinping. China’s government has been actively developing its presence in the area. During the briefing, Lee also reported that admiral Wu was also overseeing troop drills on a part of the Spratly archipelago the Chinese call Yongshu Island. Known by the Philippines as Fiery Cross Reef, the site is home to about 100 Chinese troops and is the country’s home base for their efforts in the area. International Business Times Edited by Hong Nam, Oct 17 2014, 08:46 PM.
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| Hong Nam | Oct 18 2014, 06:16 PM Post #649 |
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China wanted sea row out of ASEM Philippine Star - 17 hours ago China strongly campaigned to keep out territorial disputes in the South China Sea from the chairman’s statement at the end of the Asia-Europe Meeting (ASEM) and summit in Milan that ended yesterday, diplomatic sources said. The final statement was expected late last night. Sources said the South China Sea issue was not specifically mentioned in the draft chairman’s statement even as large European economies pushed to retain it in the final document. "There has been a strong campaign by the Chinese to take it out since it has to be approved by unanimity. They (Chinese) were going around. They went country by country seeking to convince countries," a source said. China paid attention to countries in Europe economically working hard to grow or return to growth and need to get favorable attention from China and obtain Chinese investments, sources said. Sources said disputes would be discussed in the meeting whether or not the South China Sea appears in the final document. "Europe sees the dispute in the South China Sea and elsewhere must be tackled responsibly in accordance with international law, so Europe is keen to get this message across. And we believe this is the time to uphold international order." Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario represented President Aquino in the ASEM, held every two years. He underscored that the core issue in the dispute is China’s so-called "nine-dash line" position, an expansive claim of "indisputable sovereignty" over nearly the entire South China Sea. He referred to the EU Council president’s recent encouragement for the Philippines to pursue its maritime disputes with China and defend the Philippine position in accordance with the rule of law. Philstar / Yahoo Edited by Hong Nam, Oct 18 2014, 06:20 PM.
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| Hong Nam | Oct 19 2014, 05:27 PM Post #650 |
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Vietnam, Germany one with PHL over South China Sea issue Philippines and Vietnam agrees to bring up issues in South China Sea in the said meeting of Asian and European countries. They will urge attending nations to support 2002 ASEAN-China Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC) and the expeditious conclusion of the Code of Conduct (COC). German Chancellor Angela Merkel, in a joint press conference with Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung earlier last week in Berlin, also expressed support for peaceful resolution of disputes in South China Sea. “We urge, and in this we are in full agreement, a peaceful solution. We could envisage discussions or international arbitration.” Merkel added that she will advocate for a peaceful resolution during the two-day ASEM summit. Ang Malaya Edited by Hong Nam, Oct 19 2014, 05:28 PM.
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