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Philippines-China WPS Dispute
Topic Started: Jul 15 2012, 02:28 PM (105,153 Views)
Andres Boning
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ganymede09
Aug 27 2014, 09:39 PM
how ironic, his big Boss during the 90's couldnt do what he's now preaching. there were plans but weak political will to implement it quickly until Asian financial crisis torpedoed the whole thing. Damn!!! even the doing the first part (coast guard upgrade) would have made a big difference.
Like you said, he's big Boss..? "El tabako!" It's obey first, ask questions later, but that's it, NO contradiction.

If he were the big boss then, maybe he could have made a difference.. It's never too late to make a difference..!

If he runs and becomes a President, pretty sure he'll give China a bloody headache or even a bloody nose, that's for sure. "Bihira na ang mga ex opisyal na kagaya niya na still truly PATRIOTIC at heart!" Together with Ex NSA Adv. Golez.... :salute:

GO Mr Alunan! It's never too late, Inang BAYAN needs you! :patrioticpinoy:
Edited by Andres Boning, Aug 27 2014, 11:35 PM.
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Andres Boning
Aug 27 2014, 11:32 PM
ganymede09
Aug 27 2014, 09:39 PM
how ironic, his big Boss during the 90's couldnt do what he's now preaching. there were plans but weak political will to implement it quickly until Asian financial crisis torpedoed the whole thing. Damn!!! even the doing the first part (coast guard upgrade) would have made a big difference.
Like you said, he's big Boss..? "El tabako!" It's obey first, ask questions later, but that's it, NO contradiction.

If he were the big boss then, maybe he could have made a difference.. It's never too late to make a difference..!

If he runs and becomes a President, pretty sure he'll give China a bloody headache or even a bloody nose, that's for sure. "Bihira na ang mga ex opisyal na kagaya niya na still truly PATRIOTIC at heart!" Together with Ex NSA Adv. Golez.... :salute:

GO Mr Alunan! It's never too late, Inang BAYAN needs you! :patrioticpinoy:
of course he didnt have to openly contradict Ramos, but he could have written/spoken about some of what he has been saying now. You dont exactly hear all officials of this current administration speaking with one voice do you? He could even have just explained about the need for a better coast guard not only for better domain awareness but also for rescue in times of disasters, but as i recall he was pretty much silent about the matter back then.
LET'S RAISE OUR MIDDLE FINGERs TO THE MIDDLE KINGDOM.
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but look at his boss now, talking every now and then, w/o being asked. for an ex-military man, his boss, he didnt treat his former line of work mod nicely. haaaay :brrt:

anyway, imo, its imperative to start the modernization of pag asa before its too late. its useless talking to china anyway
IDI@T!!! COWARD!!!
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China hastening work on reclamation projects in disputed waters - DFA
By Matikas Santos - INQUIRER.net
Friday, August 29th, 2014



MANILA, Philippines - China is working double time on their reclamation projects in the South China Sea in order to complete their expansion agenda before the arbitration case is concluded, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said Friday.

Japanese news agency NHK recently reported that China has built military facilities on several disputed reefs in the Spratly Group of Islands where they have done land reclamation.

They showed aerial photographs obtained from Philippine military sources showing the development of helicopter landing pads, radar facilities, and even machine gun platforms.

"The photos of Mischief Reef taken in April show solar panels, radar facilities, and what look like machine guns. They show that the facilities have been modernized and more militarized over the past 4 years," the report said.

"Photos of Fiery Cross Reef show a heliport and what look like agricultural greenhouses and gun platforms. On Subi Reef, a white spherical object believed to be a large radar facility can be seen," it said.

The DFA has previously showed a series of aerial photographs showing the progression of the reclamation work China has undertaken from 2012 up to early 2014. This latest development in China’s reclamation however was seen as "quite significant."

"When we released the pictures in May, we were able to show the progress of the reclamation work starting 2012 up to 2014. We were not surprised to see in a matter of months they have progressed quite significantly," Jose said.


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Manila pushes action plan on sea row

Aug. 31, 2014

Department of Foreign Affairs spokesman Charles Jose said that China might have made progress quite significantly in putting up structures before the other claimants could adopt the Philippine plan which sought among others a moratorium in “ reclamation activities” in the WPS. ...

Jose feared that while the arbitration is ongoing, China may finish its whole construction in the West Philippine Sea and occupy the oil-resource-rich island.

“There’s really a possibility. That why we have been proposing this Triple Action Plan because precisely of the reclamation work and other aggressive activities that China is doing,” Jose said. ...

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AFP won’t loose grip on West PH Sea, ready for violent acts - military chief
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2/09/2014



"The AFP shall not let loose on the country's grip over the West Philippine Sea's chain of islands. While we would do our best to avoid confrontation with China, we will remain always ready to protect our people from violent activities. The AFP will continue to maintain our presence in the area to safeguard our national interests."

"However, we cannot let our troops down. This is why we undertake routine resupply and rotation of forces to ensure that our personnel manning our posts in the West Philippine Sea have enough provisions and rest."

"Likewise, we recognize the condition and state of their dwellings and we are working out ways to improve their shelters, taking into account that the declaration on the Conduct of Parties is observed."


- General Gregorio Pio Catapang, Armed Forces of the Philippines chief


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Tokyo and Manila teaming up vs. Beijing over these ongoing disputes...

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Japan, PH lawmakers close ranks to prod China to follow rule of law in disputed seas
By: Pots de Leon, InterAksyon.com
September 3, 2014 6:45 PM

MANILA - Saying they were for peace above all, Filipino and Japanese lawmakers are closing ranks for a campaign to spread awareness about what they see as the tendency toward a "unilateral use of force in order to change the status quo" in disputed Asian seas, and have warned that inaction on their part could turn these areas into permanent seas of conflilct.

On Wednesday, they signed an agreement to craft a resolution to push for a peaceful solution to the ongoing maritime dispute with China over territorial claims in the West Philippine Sea. Japan itself is embroiled in a maritime conflict with China in the East Asian Sea, over the chain of islands it calls Senkakus, and which China calls Diaoyu.

Tokyo earlier warned Beijing over its aggressive moves to stake its claim on disputed areas in the region. Recently, Japan's new government sought to relax the restraints in its pacifist constitution to allow it to militarily engage with long-time allies and even foes in the Asia Pacific.

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Is China building on disputed Spratly Islands reefs?
9 September 2014


A chain of islands in the South China Sea has become the centre of a territorial dispute - and a source of growing tension in the region.

The Spratly Islands are situated in a key shipping route, surrounded by natural resources. A number of neighbouring countries claim ownership of the island chain but China has a new way of pressing its territorial claim.

BBC News Video: Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports from the Gaveen reef.








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Sep 9 2014, 10:41 PM
Is China building on disputed Spratly Islands reefs?
9 September 2014

BBC News Video: Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports from the Gaveen reef.




In the coverage, Rupert Wingfield-Hayes of BBC showed China's current activities in Johnson South Reef.

"Along the new coastline I can see construction crews building a sea wall. There are cement-pumping trucks, cranes, large steel pipes, and the flash of welding torches. On top of a white concrete blockhouse a soldier is standing looking back at us through binoculars. I urge the skipper to get even closer, but a volley of flares erupts in the sky - it is a Chinese warning."



CHINA COMMENTS ON BBC'S "CHINA'S ISLAND FACTORY" COVERAGE OF WPS
SEPTEMBER 10, 2014
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China Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying answered a question regarding BBC's coverage of West Philippine Sea entitle, China's Island Factory.


"China asserts indisputable sovereignty over the Nansha Islands and the adjacent waters, and China's activities on relevant islands and reefs of the Nansha Islands fall entirely within China's sovereignty and are totally justifiable."



In a press conference with China's Foreign Ministry Spokesperson, a reporter asked...

Question: Is China's large-scale reclamation work for business or military use?

Hua Chunying:
- As far as I know, the construction work China does on relevant islands is mainly for the purpose of improving the working and living conditions of people stationed on these islands.


Follow up question: Given the fact that those islands China works on are new islands, there is no way that construction on them is for improving the living conditions of inhabitants on those them. What are the true purpose and intention of China for doing this?

Hua Chunying:
- I have already answered your question."






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Why Is China Building Islands in the South China Sea?
A BBC report confirms China's extensive land reclamation projects in the South China Sea. What does Beijing gain?

By Shannon Tiezzi
September 10, 2014


The Philippine government has been doing its best to call attention to China's land reclamation projects in the South China Sea, part of Manila's attempt to win over international opinion. The Philippines calls such actions provocative, a unilateral attempt to change the status quo. Back in May, the Department of Foreign Affairs protested the land reclamation in a statement and released before-and-after photos of the construction. At the recent ASEAN Regional Forum, Manila proposed a freeze on provocative moves in the South China Sea, including land reclamation projects. Beijing dismissed the proposal before the ARF even convened.

Part VII of UNCLOS specifies that "Rocks which cannot sustain human habitation or economic life of their own shall have no exclusive economic zone or continental shelf." Under this provision, even if China were to gain control over the Spratlys, its control would be limited to the 12 nautical mile territorial waters, without an accompanying exclusive economic zone.

If China can create "islands" on top of previously submerged features and create conditions for these new islands to "sustain human habitation," then China would have strongly bolstered its claims to the South China Sea. This is exactly what the Philippines objects to. In an interview for the BBC report, Department of Foreign Affairs spokesman Charles Jose called China's claims in the South China Sea "outrageous, excessive, and without basis under international law." He also accused China of trying to change the status quo to strengthen its claims before the arbitration court hands down its ruling on the Philippines' case.

If there is anything to be gleaned from Hua's response, it is that China does expect to have people living and working on the islands. Whether these people will be civilians or whether the newly-constructed islands will house military bases remains to be seen.


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