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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 15 2012, 02:28 PM (105,159 Views) | |
| Mckoyzzz | Jun 26 2014, 12:33 PM Post #541 |
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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One of the "10-dashes" almost kissed the Malaysian mainland... Nonetheless, I haven't heard any squeaks from the them... |
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| pachador | Jun 26 2014, 01:21 PM Post #542 |
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it looks like the latest bully map does not include the natunas islands of indonesia ?? it looks like they backed off indonesia after the indonesians huffed and puffed recently over the natunas islands. I bet the purpose is to make indonesia neutral and they hope indonesia will try to persuade the philippines to try 'negotiations' but then indonesia will not have credibility to preach pease/negotiations since its in their interest for war not to erupt because anyway, natunas islands is not included in the bully's 9-dash line(if my assumption is true) can anyone verify from this latest map is natunas islands are indeed not included by the bully? malaysia has a big chinese minority population that is economically powerful, but which the native malays have been discriminating against so this may be a factor in malaysia's meek behavior. Edited by pachador, Jun 26 2014, 01:29 PM.
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| Mckoyzzz | Jun 26 2014, 01:43 PM Post #543 |
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I've checked previous "9-dash" and "10-dash" maps and it's the same. The Natuna island is not part of it. The Malaysians may have already accepted China's "historical claim", that's why China is urging the same acceptance from PH and Japan... |
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| Mckoyzzz | Jun 26 2014, 01:51 PM Post #544 |
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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Oh.. now here's why Malaysians are so quiet... it's all about the money, money, money...
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| pachador | Jun 26 2014, 01:54 PM Post #545 |
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well, that helps explain indonesia's attitude towards the bully claims - not as strident as the philipines and japan. After all, each country have their core interests. Edited by pachador, Jun 26 2014, 01:55 PM.
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| gammy322 | Jun 26 2014, 05:28 PM Post #546 |
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After release of 'expansive' map, PH told to brace for China's more aggressive intrusion By: Lira Dalangin-Fernandez, InterAksyon.com June 26, 2014 5:17 PM MANILA, Philippines -- The Philippines should brace for more aggressive intrusion into its waters by China's navy after the country's publication of a new map covering broader territorial claims over South China Sea, a former lawmaker and national security adviser said Thursday. "The Chinese navy may be preparing to violate in depth our Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) with the new China 10-dash line," former Parañaque representative Roilo Golez said. "We face the danger of the Chinese navy (PLAN) patrolling our seas well within our EEZ and getting close to our territorial sea, with the Chinese navy commanders citing the newly minted map as their authority for violating in depth our EEZ," Golez said. http://www.interaksyon.com/article/89966/after-release-of-expansive-map-ph-told-to-brace-for-chinas-more-aggressive-intrusion |
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| gammy322 | Jun 26 2014, 05:31 PM Post #547 |
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WE NOW NEED MORE NAVY AND CG BOATS TO PATROL OUR SEAS. |
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| Hong Nam | Jun 26 2014, 05:40 PM Post #548 |
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Bought by China
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No offense but ASEAN is a "toothless tiger" for now. You've got a lot of "fence sitters" and a 3 more in the other side of the fence - firmly in China's grip and looking to their own agendas. Which is why I believe you have to look outside these 10 nations. China is just using ASEAN as a "vehicle" for delaying/stalling everything. Even if by some miracle they get things done like issuing a moratorium or a DOC... there is no assurance if China will sign it or even abide by it. UNCLOS, (serious) armed forces modernization, and exploring the possibility of a regional alliance is where the onus should be on. Edited by Hong Nam, Jun 26 2014, 05:41 PM.
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| gammy322 | Jun 26 2014, 05:46 PM Post #549 |
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That is why the US, Japan, Australia, and S. Korea are helping us on this matter (plus more nations in the EU)... only Vietnam is kicking China's butt among the ASEAN nation. |
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| Mckoyzzz | Jun 26 2014, 06:36 PM Post #550 |
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Although Vietnam tries to challenge China through military and/or para-military confrontation (albeit can only do so much), but the PH diplomatic strategy is also getting a lot of grounds and even gave PH much needed alliances from other concerned nations. We should notice this on China's comments and statements regarding the PH. It seemed that damaging their international image hurts more than water hoses and ship ramming... Edited by Mckoyzzz, Jun 26 2014, 07:33 PM.
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