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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 15 2012, 02:28 PM (105,174 Views) | |
| fernandez705 | Feb 28 2014, 03:59 PM Post #391 |
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Yes i supose its at least better than firing munitions at them, also hose pipes for the use of suppresion, repulsion against any vessel, we dont want that incident to happen again |
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| MSantor | Mar 1 2014, 05:02 AM Post #392 |
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Let's see if Manila can count on Kuala Lumpur's help in making a case against China: Interaksyon
Edited by MSantor, Mar 1 2014, 05:03 AM.
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"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." - Henry Ford "Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking"- Gen. George S. Patton | |
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| fernandez705 | Mar 4 2014, 05:10 AM Post #393 |
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regarding to the ukrane crisis this was the highlight of my day
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| Santi Kampilan | Mar 4 2014, 05:47 AM Post #394 |
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Actually, China seems to be agreeing with Russia's move. Although their official statement is not so clear what their position is. But this article sums it up. Drudge Report |
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| fernandez705 | Mar 4 2014, 07:05 AM Post #395 |
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^ive also read news about that too, but i think their just trying to be neutral for now because if they publicly sided russia then thats more scrutiny to them. i think their just waiting and watching what the US will do and it will affect the situation in the wps
Edited by fernandez705, Mar 4 2014, 07:05 AM.
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| Andres Boning | Mar 5 2014, 06:30 AM Post #396 |
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^Definitely it will affect situation in WPS. We'll never know until something happens? It all depends on how desperate and serious Russia is on re-taking strategic parts of Ukraine or all of it for their interests... Let's hope that it's not going to be like China- "I'll support you all the way, if you can do the same for me in the ECS/ SCS-WPS." To be honest, if Russia successfully takes total control of Ukraine without any Military Intervention from the EU or NATO, the US and it's other Allies, it would be a disaster, a very bad precedent to China, NK, Iran and other Rogue States.. It can/will totally put a BiG question on the US reputation with regards to defense treaties with all of it' Allies around the World. Edited by Andres Boning, Mar 5 2014, 06:33 AM.
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| fernandez705 | Mar 5 2014, 06:35 AM Post #397 |
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I can imagine them invading the wps especially pagasa without firing a shot similar to what the russians are doing to the ukranian bases, this will allow them to invade but may not cause the mdt to take affect. |
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| Andres Boning | Mar 5 2014, 07:22 AM Post #398 |
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Yes, they can copy ala Russian style move in WPS, but it would be a brilliant move for them (China) as well, because unlike Ukraine, there are NO Chinese citizens inside PH controlled Islands.. The real bad precedent here is if the US doesn't do anything bold and firm to make Russia to back off or to stop Russia's invasion of Ukraine which technically has MDT with the US and UK, a signed agreement during Pres. Clinton's Administration regarding conditions on their Nuke disarmament. For Russia- undercover Invasion For China (on WPS) a real Invasion |
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| Taz_1 | Mar 5 2014, 08:36 AM Post #399 |
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If they are going to do it , one of the best time is now. Obama is befuddled. Edited by Taz_1, Mar 5 2014, 08:40 AM.
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| Uruzu | Mar 5 2014, 09:46 AM Post #400 |
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If the tensions in the WPS escalate , the Chinese could , just like the Russians , under the pretext/prediction that Chinese fishermen are under threat by garrisons on Pagasa or other shoals , initiate Naval blockades on these islands and shoals. WPS airspace will be closed. Shots won't be fired , but any supplies or reinforcements to these garrisons will be cut off. They will be asked to lay down their arms and surrender. The AFP , which is simply no match for the PLAN, PAF , could not respond or they will be considered as the provocative side. Considering the EU nations cant even agree on sanctions over the Crimean Crisis because of the dependency on Russia for gas and trade , it is likely that the Europeans wouldn't dare risk trade relations with the Chinese. Similar for the US. Moreover the MDT does not specifically cover shoals in the WPS. How it is interpreted depends on which US administration is in office. God forbid a Ron Paul - like president winning the election. Because this will be ''Philippines' war , not our war''. Then you will have other countries who will sit back , with their governments and public holding a more ''objective view'' . Afterall , the Chinese flimsy pretext for the naval blockades might have some justification. --- This Crimean crisis serves a warning to the AFP . If China plays it well , plays it smart, you are most likely on your own in the WPS. Edited by Uruzu, Mar 5 2014, 09:52 AM.
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