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Philippines-China WPS Dispute
Topic Started: Jul 15 2012, 02:28 PM (105,184 Views)
Santi Kampilan
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Who is going to strike first, us? With what? No, fighter aircraft, no warship...I'm sorry we have two old ladies from circa 1944 and 1965? :lollol:
Are they really scared of us or they are peeing 'cuz of the US and Japan?


China media warns Philippines of "counterstrike" in South China Sea

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Reuters) - China's state media warned on Saturday that a "counterstrike" against the Philippines was inevitable if it continues to provoke Beijing in the South China Sea, potentially Asia's biggest military troublespot.

The warning comes as ministers from both countries attend an Association of Southeast Asian Nations meeting in Brunei, starting Saturday, which hopes to reach a legally binding code of conduct to manage maritime conduct in disputed areas.

At stake are potentially massive offshore oil reserves. The seas also lie on shipping lanes and fishing grounds.

Both China and the Philippines have been locked in a decades-old territorial squabble over the South China Sea, with tensions flaring after the Philippines moved new soldiers and supplies last week to a disputed coral reef, prompting Beijing to condemn Manila's "illegal occupation".

The overseas edition of the People's Daily, the official newspaper of the Chinese Communist Party, said in a front-page commentary that the Philippines had committed "seven sins" in the South China Sea.

These include the "illegal occupation" of the Spratly Islands, inviting foreign capital to engage in oil and gas development in the disputed waters and promoting the "internationalisation" of the waters, said the commentary.

The Philippines has called on the United States to act as a "patron", while ASEAN has become an "accomplice," said the commentary, which does not amount to official policy but can reflect the government's thinking.

"The Philippines, knowing that it's weak, believes that 'a crying child will have milk to drink'," the People's Daily said, accusing Manila of resorting to many "unscrupulous" tricks in the disputed waters.

Beijing's assertion of sovereignty over a vast stretch of the South China Sea has set it directly against Vietnam and the Philippines, while Brunei, Taiwan and Malaysia also lay claim to other parts of the sea.

The 10-member ASEAN hopes to reach a legally binding Code of Conduct to manage maritime conduct in disputed areas. For now a watered-down "Declaration of Conduct" is in place.

On Thursday, China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi warned that countries with territorial claims in the South China Sea that look for help from third parties will find their efforts "futile", adding that the path of confrontation would be "doomed".

Last week, China vowed to protect its sovereignty over the Second Thomas Shoal, known in China as the Ren'ai reef. The Philippines is accusing China of encroachment after three Chinese ships, including a naval frigate, converged just five nautical miles (nine km) from an old transport ship that Manila ran aground on a reef in 1999 to mark its territory.

Last year, China and the Philippines were locked in a tense two-month standoff at the Scarborough Shoal, which is only about 124 nautical miles off the Philippine coast. Chinese ships now control the shoal, often chasing away Filipino fishermen.

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Jun 29 2013, 02:08 PM
Who is going to strike first, us? With what? No, fighter aircraft, no warship...I'm sorry we have two old ladies from circa 1944 and 1965? :lollol:
Are they really scared of us or they are peeing 'cuz of the US and Japan?


China media warns Philippines of "counterstrike" in South China Sea

Reuters

Reuters) - China's state media warned on Saturday that a "counterstrike" against the Philippines was inevitable if it continues to provoke Beijing in the South China Sea, potentially Asia's biggest military troublespot.

The warning comes as ministers from both countries attend an Association of Southeast Asian Nations meeting in Brunei, starting Saturday, which hopes to reach a legally binding code of conduct to manage maritime conduct in disputed areas.

At stake are potentially massive offshore oil reserves. The seas also lie on shipping lanes and fishing grounds.

Both China and the Philippines have been locked in a decades-old territorial squabble over the South China Sea, with tensions flaring after the Philippines moved new soldiers and supplies last week to a disputed coral reef, prompting Beijing to condemn Manila's "illegal occupation".

The overseas edition of the People's Daily, the official newspaper of the Chinese Communist Party, said in a front-page commentary that the Philippines had committed "seven sins" in the South China Sea.

These include the "illegal occupation" of the Spratly Islands, inviting foreign capital to engage in oil and gas development in the disputed waters and promoting the "internationalisation" of the waters, said the commentary.

The Philippines has called on the United States to act as a "patron", while ASEAN has become an "accomplice," said the commentary, which does not amount to official policy but can reflect the government's thinking.

"The Philippines, knowing that it's weak, believes that 'a crying child will have milk to drink'," the People's Daily said, accusing Manila of resorting to many "unscrupulous" tricks in the disputed waters.

Beijing's assertion of sovereignty over a vast stretch of the South China Sea has set it directly against Vietnam and the Philippines, while Brunei, Taiwan and Malaysia also lay claim to other parts of the sea.

The 10-member ASEAN hopes to reach a legally binding Code of Conduct to manage maritime conduct in disputed areas. For now a watered-down "Declaration of Conduct" is in place.

On Thursday, China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi warned that countries with territorial claims in the South China Sea that look for help from third parties will find their efforts "futile", adding that the path of confrontation would be "doomed".

Last week, China vowed to protect its sovereignty over the Second Thomas Shoal, known in China as the Ren'ai reef. The Philippines is accusing China of encroachment after three Chinese ships, including a naval frigate, converged just five nautical miles (nine km) from an old transport ship that Manila ran aground on a reef in 1999 to mark its territory.

Last year, China and the Philippines were locked in a tense two-month standoff at the Scarborough Shoal, which is only about 124 nautical miles off the Philippine coast. Chinese ships now control the shoal, often chasing away Filipino fishermen.

To answer your question, both of your statements are actually, if partially, true. They fear us because of our daring, because they never thought that some country like the Philippines would be standing up against them, and so they are irritated by that fact, and they are afraid of the U.S. and her allies because deep down, although they have numbers and they have copies of one of the best (if not the actual best) American weaponry, they know that they couldn't actually be confident on them, seeing that their past creations (Type 69s in Iraq War) didn't fare as good as they thought against American firepower.
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Yikes.

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(Reuters) - China's state media warned on Saturday that a "counterstrike" against the Philippines was inevitable if it continues to provoke Beijing in the South China Sea, potentially Asia's biggest military troublespot.

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now they know how we felt when they took scs from us. china forgot about our history. every time there is an invasion to our lands the PH is always second place. we standing up to china is just history repeating itself.
with or without an ally the Filipino's are never scared of goliath like countries.
Edited by fernandez705, Jun 29 2013, 07:16 PM.
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PH slams China for retaliation threat
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In a statement, the Department of Foreign Affairs reminded China of its obligation under international law to settle disputes without the use of threat or force.

“China has an obligation under international law, especially the UN Charter, to pursue a peaceful resolution of disputes, meaning without the use of force, the threat to use force such as this recent provocative statement of a counterstrike,” said DFA spokesperson Raul Hernandez.

“There is no place in the relations of civilized nations to use such provocative language,” he added.

Hernandez made the statement in response to the Chinese People’s Daily’s scathing commentary on the Philippines on Saturday, which warned of a “counterstrike” as it accused Manila of “seven sins” in the disputed West Philippine Sea, which is how the Philippine government calls part of the South China Sea that is within in exclusive economic zone.
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China's mouthpiece, People's Daily, is not only controversial in the things they say but also is reflected in the recent construction of their new headquarters which looks like a giant penis.

Japan Times article

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Then, would it be ok to call these Commies a bunch of dickheads? :lollol:

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That's not a mouthpiece but a mouthful! :armycheers:
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Jun 29 2013, 11:28 PM
PH slams China for retaliation threat
globalnation.inquirer.net
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In a statement, the Department of Foreign Affairs reminded China of its obligation under international law to settle disputes without the use of threat or force.

“China has an obligation under international law, especially the UN Charter, to pursue a peaceful resolution of disputes, meaning without the use of force, the threat to use force such as this recent provocative statement of a counterstrike,” said DFA spokesperson Raul Hernandez.

“There is no place in the relations of civilized nations to use such provocative language,” he added.

Hernandez made the statement in response to the Chinese People’s Daily’s scathing commentary on the Philippines on Saturday, which warned of a “counterstrike” as it accused Manila of “seven sins” in the disputed West Philippine Sea, which is how the Philippine government calls part of the South China Sea that is within in exclusive economic zone.
"There is no place in the relations of civilized nations to use such provocative language."

That's diplomatic speech for "Your claim to be a culturally superior and civilized country is proven wrong as shown in the manner of your speech!" Now that is a slap in the face.



@Santi
Even the size of that one isn't enough for a mouthful, if one has to consider how big their mouth is!




Edited by Hong Nam, Jun 30 2013, 11:23 PM.

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Jun 28 2013, 06:55 AM

Confrontation over the South China Sea 'doomed', China tells claimants

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"If certain claimant countries choose confrontation, that path will be doomed," Wang said after a speech at the annual Tsinghua World Peace Forum.

"If such countries try to reinforce their poorly grounded claims through the help of external forces, that will be futile and will eventually prove to be a strategic miscalculation not worth the effort."

Didn't Saddam Hussein say something similar along these lines twice? In 1991 and a decade after?

History is full of men with such bluster yet failed miserably when the time came. One has to ask why a country so sure of itself "fidgets" when the so called "weaker" countries out-maneuver them. Perhaps they aren't so sure of themselves after all?



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China's image in SE Asia is really plunging into new lows.

Such a contrast compared 10 years ago , when China hadn't taken off her mask yet.
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First, they said your China Sea "exploits" were doomed to fail.

Then it was a threat of a "counter-strike".

Now this:

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China agrees South China Sea talks amid new row with Manila

(Reuters) - China agreed to hold formal talks with Southeast Asian nations on a plan to ease maritime tensions on Sunday as the Philippines accused it of causing "increasing militarization" of the South China Sea, one of Asia's naval flashpoints.

The rebuke by Philippine Foreign Minister Albert del Rosario at a regional summit in Brunei came a day after China's state media warned of an inevitable "counterstrike" against the Philippines if it continued to provoke Beijing.

China agreed to hold "official consultations" on a proposed Code of Conduct (CoC) governing naval actions at a meeting with ASEAN in China in September, a step that Thailand's foreign minister hailed as "very significant".


http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/30/us-asean-southchinasea-idUSBRE95T03V20130630

A deliberate ploy to let your guard down? Are they having second thoughts? They probably think that you have forgotten their "Scarborough Turn Around" dance and hoping you will commit the same mistake twice. - Never trust a snake no matter if it brings goodwill, for a snake will only do what nature has bestowed upon it... which is to bite.

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Subic Bay to be reopened as US base
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It’s day three of a six-day joint military exercise between the US and the Philippines. The news that the Philippines plans to build new military bases at Subic Bay, and to reopen the base to the United States, has been under discussion.

"The establishment of military bases at Subic Bay will face many obstacles. The first is domestic law. According to Philippine law, the Bay can only be used as a foreign base when the Philippines rents it to US military forces, and foreign military stations are not allowed. Secondly, the former American naval facility has been abandoned for more than ten years. It will cost nearly million of US dollars to rebuild it," said rear admiral Yin Zhuo from Chinese PLA Navy.


http://english.cntv.cn/program/asiatoday/20130629/105113.shtml

CNTV is showing increased interest in the Philippines.

Admiral Yin Zhuo from Chinese PLA Navy is now an expert on your laws.

Will he call for help from his Philippine allies and ask them to step up the "noise"? Calling Bayaran Muna, Anak Puwit, and Grabe Na (Did I get the language right?)... Your masters need your help!




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