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| Goose | May 23 2013, 05:32 PM Post #241 |
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| Hong Nam | May 24 2013, 01:46 AM Post #242 |
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Is China Inserting Itself Into the Taiwan-Philippines Spat? By Zachary Keck May 24, 2013 Briefing reporters this week, Philippine Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said, “We saw a frigate. We saw CMS (Chinese maritime surveillance) maritime ships. We have pictures and we have sent them to the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA). Based on [the photos] that I saw yesterday, there were two CMS and one frigate.” Gazmin added that the presence of a Chinese military ship was “unusual.” The Department of Foreign Affairs struck an even more defiant tone with a spokesperson from the department declaring, “They should not be there. They do not have the right to be there… no-one should doubt the resolve of the Filipino people to defend what is ours in that area.” “Our Navy and our Coast Guard are mandated to enforce the laws of the (Philippine) republic,” Raul Hernandez, the spokesperson, added. The Philippines stations a host of Marines on the Ayungin Shoal which is also called the Second Thomas Shoal. They operate from a WWII-era U.S. tank-landing vessel. Manila has said that its military was not deploying more ships to the area but that an unarmed, resupply ship is in route to replenish the deployed Marines. Although China and the Philippines have long contested sovereignty of the reefs and shoals in the Spratlys, the timing of the patrols suggest they may have been motivated by the recent spat between the Philippines and Taiwan, which China considers an integral part of China. In any case, the recent flare-ups with Taiwan and China have clearly rattled the Philippines, which announced on Tuesday that it will spend US$1.8 billion to beef up its defenses in order to “resist bullies” as President Benigno Aquino put it. http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2013/05/24/is-china-inserting-itself-into-the-taiwan-philippines-spat/ Edited by Hong Nam, May 24 2013, 01:47 AM.
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| pachador | May 24 2013, 06:29 AM Post #243 |
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the proper mindset and actions of the government should be guided by what is legally allowed under both our laws and international laws, and not emotionally driven(pakiramdaman) by second-guessing what the bully will do or not do nor be constrained by the illegal intimidation or superior power of the bully The bully wants to get what they can get away with without firing a shot through intimidation. We need to call their bluff while at the same time being ready to bleed for our maritime claims, again within the confines of international law. Look at how Iceland confronted Great Britain during the Cod Wars of the 1970s using only their fishing trawlers. Believe me, the last thing the bully wants is to be forced to use violence because not only will it shut down the western pacific shipping lanes, it will piss-off in a very violent way the filipino population and whatever remaining goodwill that bully has with the filipino people will be gone for the next 100 years.Not to mention possible UN sanctions and allies rallying to our side. We will become the maritime version of Palestine in a never-ending maritime conflict. However, we cannot rely on the assumption that the bully will eventually back-down, and so we need to be ready for a long drawn-out series of back and forth naval fights or battles, and the only way our local economy can sustain that is if we can select the optimum future ship platform that can be repaired/overhauled or replaced after battle damage by the greatest number of local shipyards in the shortest time possible, and of course locally manufacture as much bullets and guns as is cost-efficient and for those larger caliber guns/missiles, we just need to stock up on supplies for them. Edited by pachador, May 24 2013, 06:43 AM.
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| AZKALS | May 27 2013, 07:29 PM Post #244 |
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Chinese Navy Conduct Joint Drill in South China Sea http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/784605/Chinese-Navy-conduct-joint-drill-in-South-China-Sea.aspx Xinhua | May 27, 2013 16:26 By Agencies |
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| Hong Nam | May 27 2013, 10:30 PM Post #245 |
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English isn't perfect, but I'm sure you get the point. |
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| Andres Boning | May 28 2013, 01:58 AM Post #246 |
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That's it, nice one BIG BROTHER! Keep it up
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| Hong Nam | May 28 2013, 09:04 PM Post #247 |
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It's like talking to a brick wall. Perhaps they will start to listen when you get your "collective butts" together and actually start buying ships/aircraft that can actually threaten them.
They probably will in about 4 years. As for now... I don't think so. Edited by Hong Nam, May 28 2013, 09:11 PM.
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| Analyst | May 28 2013, 10:52 PM Post #248 |
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Phl won't send ships to Ayungin Shoal http://www.philstar.com/nation/2013/05/28/947321/phl-wont-send-ships-ayungin-shoal-palace
Has PNoy smoked a lot of weed this month? Diplomatic protests won't do good against China. You need to defend your territory! No apologies, we will not back down! |
If you don't want a modern and capable AFP, you might want to get the f*ck off the Philippines because you don't deserve to be a Filipino that's why!
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| AZKALS | May 29 2013, 07:30 AM Post #249 |
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South China Sea Tension Mounts Near Filipino Shipwreck http://www.dailypress.com/news/nationworld/sns-rt-us-philippines-chinabre94r0ys-20130528,0,6176438.story?page=2 Manuel MogatoReuters 6:35 p.m. EDT, May 28, 2013 Soldiers are equipped with a small generator for cooking. Radios are battery-powered and supplies are delivered by boat. "They want us out of the area," another Philippine navy officer said of China."There is now a quiet agreement among different Chinese voices that sometimes you have to act as well as issuing statements," he said. China would, however, never completely close the door on possible co-operation. Ian Storey, a scholar at Singapore's Institute of South East Asian Studies, said tension at Second Thomas Shoal could prove more dangerous than last year's stand-off at unoccupied Scarborough Shoal, given the presence of Filipino troops."It is hard to imagine China using force to gain full control over Second Thomas, but some kind of blockade to drive out the Philippines' troops would have to be a possibility," Storey said. "There is a real chance of escalation or miscalculation." |
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| Andres Boning | May 29 2013, 06:24 PM Post #250 |
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Four Chinese Nationals "terrorist" caught in ILOCOS NORTE with high powered firearms w/ silencers, grenades were arrested. Four Chinese nationals were arrested in Ilocos Norte after they were caught in possession of high-powered firearms and explosives. Police said the suspects got their attention after causing trouble at a gasoline station in Pasuquin town on Tuesday evening. The suspects are believed to be part of an organized crime group. Aside from the firearms and explosives, police also recovered fake registration plates from them. The suspects failed to present any identification card or travel document to authorities. - http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/nation/regions/05/29/13/4-foreigners-caught-firearms-explosives-ilocos-norte - Umagang Kay Ganda, 29 May 2013 Ipa deport lang daw? NSA should handle this ASAP! Iba na ito, di nila dapat na trato na Police matter lang at organize crime lang ang mga iyan..! ASSASSINS, ESPIONAGE!!
Edited by Andres Boning, May 29 2013, 06:38 PM.
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