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| AZKALS | May 11 2013, 01:59 PM Post #231 |
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Aquino Warns Big-Brother China on Trade Fallout Over Sea Spat http://www.thanhniennews.com/index/pages/20130510-aquino-warns-big-brother-china-on-trade-fallout-over-sea-spat.aspx Last Updated: Friday, May 10, 2013 09:00:00 Philippine President Benigno Aquino said China may harm relations with its trading partners if it fails to respect a United Nations-backed arbitration ruling over its claims in disputed waters with oil and gas reserves.Hopefully they will see that it is in their interest to be fair, Aquino said in an interview in Manila yesterday, when asked about the chances China would comply with an international ruling. Continued growth on their part means access to markets and resources. When you become fearful of relationships with them, access to both becomes hampered. China has 'effective occupation' of Scarborough Shoal, where three of its ships remain, one year after a standoff between Philippine and Chinese ships, Del Rosario said on April 26. The land feature is about three times closer to the Philippines than to China, the Philippines said in an arbitration note.We are being shooed away from our fishing grounds, Aquino said, referring to the Scarborough Shoal area. You have one big brother who is not too benevolent at the present time so hopefully the arbitration will lead to a clear delineation of everybodys rights and everybody’s responsibilities. |
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| Vermonter | May 11 2013, 07:15 PM Post #232 |
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More Filipinos running away with their tail between their legs, even though they are in Filipino territory.... pitiful. http://mb.com.ph/article.php?aid=11520&sid=1&subid=1 "As a result, the commanding officer of the MCS-3001 ordered to open fire at Guang Ta Hsin-28 to disable its engine. However, Taiwanese fisherman named Hung Shih-cheng was accidentally killed. Two unidentified vessels, one white and one gray, arrived in the area apparently to rescue the disabled Taiwanese vessel, prompting the MCS-3001 to disengage and leave as they were already outnumbered. Both the PCG and BFAR crew onboard MCS-3001 were relieved as part of the standard operations procedure while the investigations are ongoing.". Thanks for your fruitful military modernization plans Mr. President. You suck! |
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| AZKALS | May 15 2013, 02:29 PM Post #233 |
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In a Disputed Reef, Philippines Sees Face of Chinese Domination http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-china-philippines-shoal-20130514,0,2654793.story?track=rss By Barbara Demick, Los Angeles Times May 14, 2013, 6:43 p.m MASINLOC, Philippines : The fishermen were sailing the azure waters off the Philippine coast when Richard Caneda saw the morning sunlight glinting off a vessel "bigger than the biggest ship in the Philippine navy."Caneda could see a red Chinese flag. The words "Chinese Maritime Surveillance" were written on the ship's side. The ship came close enough that Caneda could see crew members on deck making hand gestures as though to shoo away a fly. Caneda, who had moved from the fishing boat to a tiny skiff to haul in nets left out overnight, soon saw a large gun mounted on the ship's deck pivoting directly toward him. A helicopter whirred overhead.The fishermen fled, leaving their nets and catch behind. "We were scared. We were angry. We were frustrated. That is our livelihood," Caneda, 34, a now-unemployed father of three who lives in a shantytown in Masinloc, said of the November encounter.It happened near the reef known as Scarborough Shoal, 130 miles off the coast of the Philippines' largest island, Luzon, and barely 200 miles from Manila, the Philippine capital. Claimed by both China and the Philippines, the mostly underwater reef has come to represent the dangers of Chinese expansionism. |
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| AZKALS | May 17 2013, 05:55 PM Post #234 |
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Chinese Warship Chases Kalayaan Town Boat Carrying Mayor-Elect http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/05/17/943200/chinese-warship-chases-kalayaan-town-boat-carrying-mayor-elect (philstar.com) | Updated May 17, 2013 - 5:16pm MANILA, Philippines - A Chinese warship chased and tailed, in a provocative manner, the utility boat of Kalayaan island town with 147 civilian passengers, including the group of re-elected Mayor Eugenio Bito-onon, while sailing back to Palawan from Pag-Asa Island in the hotly-contested Spratly region.Bito-onon said the Chinese warship coming from the east side area of Ayungin Reef, used its powerful floodlights while chasing and tailing M/T Queen Seagull early Thursday. "The Chinese warship was only 50 meters away from our own boat," Bito-onon said, adding that the incident started when M/T Queen Seagull, that left Pag-Asa Island Wednesday morning, was passing by the Philippine-occupied Ayungin Reef at past midnight.A grounded Philippine Navy (PN) transport ship, BRP Sierra Madre, is now being used as a Naval detachment by the Western Command (Wescom) to house Filipino troops on forward deployment in Ayungin. Several Chinese warships and surveillance ships were monitored to have taken up position in the area for several days now as part of China’s aggressive move in laying its territorial claim to almost the entire South China Sea.Bito-onon said the Chinese warship only stopped tailing them when their boat was already navigating around the Half Moon Shoal, an area where a Chinese gunboat ran aground last year. |
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| Vermonter | May 17 2013, 11:18 PM Post #235 |
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Chinese warship chases Kalayaan town boat carrying mayor-elect By Jaime Laude (philstar.com) | Updated May 17, 2013 - 5:16pm MANILA, Philippines - A Chinese warship chased and tailed, in a provocative manner, the utility boat of Kalayaan island town with 147 civilian passengers, including the group of re-elected Mayor Eugenio Bito-onon, while sailing back to Palawan from Pag-Asa Island in the hotly-contested Spratly region. Bito-onon said the Chinese warship coming from the east side area of Ayungin Reef, used its powerful floodlights while chasing and tailing M/T Queen Seagull early Thursday. "The Chinese warship was only 50 meters away from our own boat," Bito-onon said, adding that the incident started when M/T Queen Seagull, that left Pag-Asa Island Wednesday morning, was passing by the Philippine-occupied Ayungin Reef at past midnight. A grounded Philippine Navy (PN) transport ship, BRP Sierra Madre, is now being used as a Naval detachment by the Western Command (Wescom) to house Filipino troops on forward deployment in Ayungin. Several Chinese warships and surveillance ships were monitored to have taken up position in the area for several days now as part of China’s aggressive move in laying its territorial claim to almost the entire South China Sea. Bito-onon said the Chinese warship only stopped tailing them when their boat was already navigating around the Half Moon Shoal, an area where a Chinese gunboat ran aground last year. Headlines ( Article MRec ), pagematch: 1, sectionmatch: 1 “For almost an hour, the Chinese warship tailed our boat,” Bito-onon said in a phone interview shortly after the docking of M/T Seagull at Buliluyan Port in Palawan’s southern town of Bataraza. Bito-onon is heading back to Puerto Princesa City after winning the three-cornered mayoralty contest in Kalayaan town in the Spratlys region during the conduct of the May 13 mid-term national and local elections. Out of the total number of registered voters in the island town, Bito-onon got 108 votes, while his closest rival, businessman Noel Osorio got 69 and retired military man and former Kalayaan Vice Mayor Rosendo Mantes, got 46 votes. The conduct election in Kalayaan has been considered as the fastest electoral process in the country’s history. Voting started in the island at about 7 a.m. and in a matter of six hours the electoral process was completed, with Bito-onon emerging as a runaway winner. “Aside from the PCOS result, we also conducted a parallel manual count. The election in the island is the most peaceful,” Bito-onon said. – with Kathryna De Bustos |
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| Mckoyzzz | May 23 2013, 03:51 PM Post #236 |
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Defense Secretary pledges to defend Ayungin Shoal 'til the last soldier standing' By Aaron Recuenco Published: May 23, 2013 They might be outnumbered and outgunned but not a single soldier from a group of Marine commandos stationed at the Ayungin Shoal will be pulled out despite what Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin described as China’s excessive intrusion in the area. “It’s part of our continental shelf and it’s not disputed as far as we are concerned, it’s ours so why should we leave,” Gazmin told reporters in a chance interview at Camp Aguialdo in Quezon City. “Up to the last soldier standing, we will fight for what is ours,” he added. Gazmin was reacting to the confirmed report of at least 10 Chinese fishing vessels backed by two large civilian ships at the Ayungin Shoal. And what is alarming is that the intruders are no longer civilian ships but is backed by a Chinese Navy frigate. “That’s already excessive violation, intrusion in our territory,” said Gazmin. Full Story @ Manila Bulletin |
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| Goose | May 23 2013, 05:01 PM Post #237 |
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What does the good secretary meant by that? are we not reinforcing those marines? if we are girding for battle with this kind of statements from both the president and the defsec, "we will defend what is ours" "we will fight til the last soldier drops" leaves an impression that those marines will die all alone in that rusting ship.. that is not an encouraging statement, that is pure bravado bordering on the brilliant! come on, mr. Secretary, you can do better that that! You could have just said -- please take note -- if you really want to assure our soldiers and the rest of the nation! I hope you're reading this! - WE WILL DEFEND THAT SHOAL, AND THE REST OF THE SPRATLY'S, WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT! -- now that's more like it.. |
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| Goose | May 23 2013, 05:12 PM Post #238 |
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with just one strike from a PLA frigate on that rusting ship, it will be decimated, with all our soldiers in it.. it is a sitting duck.. we should learn a lesson from the way the Chinese massacred those Vietnamese sailors using heavy machine guns.. the marines all shouldn't be in one place.. if hostilities breaks out, that ship will be the first target and it will be completely destroyed.. you all know that.. they will not hesitate doing what they did to those hapless Vietnamese, to us.. it will be far more dangerous this time.. and what those marines have to defend themselves and stay alive, only M16 and M14 rifles and a handful of grenades. if these are the only armaments we have, just give up and don't let those marines' lives get wasted. Because for sure, we will not be able to get a payback time, just like what happened with Vietnam. |
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| Goose | May 23 2013, 05:24 PM Post #239 |
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if you are a good commander, you should prepare for any hostilities that might break out. i'm sure those three ships that we sent can't stay there for long, they have to refuel, we should have back up ships.. again PF15, and PF11 comes in mind and the three ex-UK corvettes, they should be ready to deploy there, if hostilities breaks out. a unspecified number of AS-211 and OV-10 should be at the ready as well.. ready to reinforce those guys.. we are not praying for a shooting to break out but we should be ready as hell. because once those damned chink ships starts firing at the direction of our marines, we should start firing as well, and as good as hell. |
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| Mckoyzzz | May 23 2013, 05:26 PM Post #240 |
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Have you read the article in full? |
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