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| AZKALS | May 9 2013, 08:05 AM Post #221 |
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2 Chinese Vessels Reportedly Sighted Off Disputed Islands in West Philippine Sea http://www.interaksyon.com/article/61299/two-chinese-vessels-reportedly-sighted-off-disputed-islands-in-west-philippine-sea PUERTO PRINCESA CITY, Philippines--Two Chinese vessels were reportedly spotted near one of the disputed islands in the West Philippine Sea, a source said. One frigate ship was seen five nautical miles east of Ayungin Reef while another--a Chinese Naval Patrol Vessel--was spotted six nautical miles east of the same island, a senior military officer who refused to be named said. Last week, a report quoting the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China asked the Philippines to withdraw all its assets in the disputed islands, specifically those being claimed by China including the Ayungin Reef.“We’re informed through fishermen who fled the maritime area this morning after the arrival of the Chinese vessels,” another officer said in a separate interview In Camp Aguinaldo, military spokesman Brig. Gen. Domingo Tutaan Jr. said the military leadership is closely monitoring the situation as the Western Command (Westcom) and its naval unit, the Naval Forces West Command (NAVFORWEST), have been alerted on the situation.The Westcom is led by Major. Gen. Rustico Guerrero.[The command has to] intensify its [patrol] and monitoring to verify the truthfulness of the reports, he said after the AFP’s Battle Staff meeting held in Camp Aguinaldo in Quezon City. Edited by AZKALS, May 9 2013, 08:05 AM.
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| pachador | May 9 2013, 11:19 AM Post #222 |
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May 8, 2013 AFP ready to repel Chinese fleet By Alexis Romero (The Philippine Star) | Updated May 9, 2013 MANILA, Philippines - The military is ready to defend the country’s sovereignty in case a large Chinese fleet reportedly headed for the Spratlys enters Philippine territory. Speaking to reporters, Armed Forces spokesman Brig. Gen. Domingo Tutaan Jr. said the defense of Philippine sovereignty will involve the entire government. “We are taking action on the report… so that we will be able to advise other government agencies and so the AFP will be able to undertake what should be undertaken,” he said. Asked if the Chinese would be arrested if they enter Philippine waters, Tutaan said it would depend “on the ground situation.” The country’s sovereignty will also be asserted through a diplomatic protest, he said. Col. Edgard Arevalo, Navy spokesman for West Philippine Sea issues, said the Navy is closely monitoring the huge Chinese fleet reportedly sailing toward the Spratlys. “We have our own Navy ships patrolling the area,” he said. “We have sailors and Marines stationed in or near the area that shall serve as our eyes and ears. “But as of now, it’s too early to comment on what to do if they will enter Philippine territory as that remains to be a contingency as of the moment.” Arevalo said the Navy has orders to monitor and report any unusual incidents in the Spratlys. “These include intrusions and other illegal activities like fishing in our maritime domain,” he said. “The Philippine Navy, being a force provider, will act as directed by higher headquarters,” he added. Arevalo said the Navy will secure Philippine territory despite its limited capabilities. “Your sailors and Marines manning their posts are, and will remain, steadfast in performing their mandate to secure our maritime and territorial domains,” he said. The Palawan-based Armed Forces Western Command has also been tasked to intensify monitoring in the West Philippine Sea, Tutaan said. On Tuesday, Chinese media reported that a large Chinese fishing fleet had been sent to the Spratlys, State-run China Daily said the fleet includes 30 fishing vessels each weighing more than 100 metric tons. Edited by pachador, May 9 2013, 11:19 AM.
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| pachador | May 9 2013, 11:33 AM Post #223 |
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there were very,very serious incidents/events that happened in the 1995 mischief reef crisis not reported in the press that nearly resulted in a war that gave the kano a heart attack as it would have forced them eventually to step in if it escalated out of control. this was back when the bully's navy was not as strong. today the bully is much stronger, and there are incidents/events that are not in the press for various reasons including fear of inflaming the public (on both sides) and resultant war fever. if the bully wants to take decisive action, i feel they would cause a diversion on small reefs we control then if we respond there they will retaliate by taking a bigger or more valuable area we control, for example pagasa island or malampaya platform .however they are gauging how the kano would respond. if they feel the kano will wimper then we can be sure something bad will happen in the near future with or without our armaments purchases. in fact, my belief is that the scarborough shoal occupation, to me, is really the bully's way of goading us to hit them in scarborough so they can hit us in another area that is more valuable. scarborough and malampaya are more defensible and reachable by our big fleet of hueys and md-520s as well as our numerous gunboats but pagasa island is so far out that this island together with other outlying philippine-held islands(parola, patag, etc) are harder to defend with current assets. therefore, the most important purchase that needs to be accelerated would be the FA-50 jets followed by the frigates/corvettes , 3d radars and last but not the least long-range SSMs to complement the frigates.and FA-50s jets. those 4 projects are definitely the most urgent as far as having the most impact deterrence-wise. . did i leave anything out ?? personally, it would be a blessing in disguise for the AFP if the bully hits us because i really feel that the majority of our filipino political leaders are just a reflection of the majority of the local culture/environmnet they grew up in, which is to act at the last minute or to act belatedly only when damage has been done. so following this train of thought, its better if the AFP hit back if the bully enroaches again either through rammings/water cannons, or fire if needed and not worry about the bully punishing us since if they kill our soldiers/sailors then this is the shot in the arm the AFP needs to get massive war funding. Edited by pachador, May 9 2013, 11:49 AM.
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| pachador | May 9 2013, 01:20 PM Post #224 |
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Chinese erecting structure on Kalayaan's Ayungin Reef - source By: Jaime Sinapit, InterAksyon.com May 9, 2013 1:01 PM MANILA, Philippines -- The crews of Chinese fishing vessels that have encroached on Ayungin Reef, part of the Kalayaan Island Group of Palawan, have reportedly begun erecting metal and rope structures, a well-placed source told InterAksyon on Thursday. “There are five to eight Chinese fishing vessels that entered our reef conducting surveys inside our Ayungin Reef. Our latest report is that the Chinese were unloading big ropes and planting metal structures on our reef,” the source, a ranking military officer who spoke on condition he was not named, said. On Tuesday, Chinese state media said a fishing flotilla of some 30 vessels had been deployed to the Spratlys, which are being claimed by the Philippines, China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei and Malaysia. Military spokesman Brig. Gen. Domingo Tutaan Jr. could not be reached for comment on the alleged Chinese activities on the reef. The Kalayaan group is composed of the islands Pagasa, Likas, Parola, Lawak, Kota, Patag, and Panta, and three reefs -- Rizal, Balagtas, and Ayungin. Pagasa, which is the seat of government in the municipality, has less than 400 civilian inhabitants, a military contingent and a dilapidated airstrip, and is headed by Mayor Eugenio Bito-onon. Another source said the Chinese fleet is on a “40-day mission” to fish because of a fishing ban imposed by China on the northern part of the South China Sea, which the Philippines calls the West Philippine Sea. “Since there is a fishing ban in the northern part of the South China Sea, they have to go southward, to the Spratly Islands, to fish,” the source said. Tensions have risen for more than a year over increasing Chinese incursions into the disputed territory and the fleet is the largest recorded contingent deployed to the region. The Spratlys deployment closely mirrors the fishing fleets sent to islands in the East China Sea whose ownership is being disputed by China, Japan and Taiwan. China has become more aggressive about the Spratlys after the Philippines sought United Nations arbitration of the territorial dispute. Edited by pachador, May 9 2013, 01:21 PM.
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| seWer Rat | May 9 2013, 04:17 PM Post #225 |
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Do we have a military presence on Ayungin Reef? |
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| mikegalvez | May 9 2013, 04:45 PM Post #226 |
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where is the PHIL NAVY? Whats this another Mischief reef? |
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| seWer Rat | May 9 2013, 05:54 PM Post #227 |
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LOSING GROUND | How PH has handled Sabah, West Philippine Sea disputes over the years A long read, but informative: http://www.interaksyon.com/article/61320/losing-ground--how-ph-has-handled-sabah-west-philippine-sea-disputes-over-the-years |
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| pachador | May 9 2013, 11:06 PM Post #228 |
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its just a beached navy LST. ayungin is a reef so either we erect a concrete structure there like the bully at mischief reef or we beach an old ship which is what we did. kinakalawang na yung barko kaya nag dadalawang isip ang bully lusubin at baka ma-tetanus pa sila hehe |
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| Batusai | May 9 2013, 11:34 PM Post #229 |
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Since we are talking of diversions...maybe their is a chance that the shooting incident of a Taiwanese shipping vessel by a "PH warship" is a diversion so that the 30 Chinese vessel can walk in without any incident and as have been reported are now erecting structure in the Ayungin reef.
Edited by Batusai, May 9 2013, 11:34 PM.
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| pachador | May 10 2013, 02:18 AM Post #230 |
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PH sea patrol checks out Chinese ships By Francisco Tuyay May. 10, 2013 manila standard The Philippine Navy on Thursday deployed three of its ships in the Kalayaan Group of Islands following reports that a Chinese navy frigate and two civilian ships were seen approaching a reef and a shoal in the area. A highly-placed source said the Navy deployed the PN PS36, a Peacock Class offshore patrol, a frigate-type (PS 74) and a personnel carrier vessel (PS 71) to the Ayungin Reef and Hasahasa islet to monitor the presence of the Chinese vessels. The source said that the Chinese frigate has yet to arrive at the Ayungin Reef, while the two civilian ships were fast approaching the reefs. Chinese vessels were also spotted near the Hasasa Reef, which is located near Ayungin. “As of now they have not entered Ayungin Reef and Hasasa shoal but the three Navy vessels were dispatched to monitor the behavior of the Chinese in the West Philippine Sea,” the source said. Ayungin Reef, also known as Second Thomas Reef, is adjacent to Mischief Reef or Panganiban Reef, 150 miles off Palawan and 620 miles Southeast of China. The Ayungin Reef was occupied by the country in 1973. The Hasahasa Shoal, is a tiny island located a few miles off Ayungin and is estimated to be 170 miles off Palawan. Both Ayungin and Hasahasa are located within the country’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ), the 200-nautical mile boundary as defined by international sea law. The source said that reports persist that the Chinese had started erecting structures in Ayungin, including metal and ropes to serve as markers. On Tuesday, China Daily reported that China had sent a fishing flotilla of some 30 vessels which were dispatched to Spratly, parts of which are being contested by the Philippines, China, Taiwan, Brunie and Malaysia. Meanwhile, an article in People’s Daily reported on Thursday that China intends to double its offshore air patrols by 2015, based on a government report released on Wednesday. China’s Ocean Development Report (2013), which was released by the China Institute for Marine Affairs under the State Oceanic Administration, emphasizes the importance of offshore air patrols to the country’s maritime law enforcement. According to the report, by 2015 the country’s marine surveillance force will include fixed-wing aircraft with a range of more than 4,500 kilometers. By 2020, a variety of aircraft with different ranges will be available for different purposes, according to the report. China has undertaken regular patrols of the waters in the East China Sea since July 2006, and conducted regular patrols over the waters of the South China Sea since December 2007. During the past year, Sino-Japanese relations have become increasingly strained because of Japan’s repeated provocations over the Diaoyu Islands in the East China Sea. The waters in the South China Sea remains troubled since a Philippine warship entered China’s territorial waters around Huangyan Island and harassed Chinese fishermen in April last year. Besides offshore air patrols, the report estimates that the gross domestic product involving the country’s marine sectors will increase by 15 percent annually until 2030. The GDP involving the marine sectors in 2012 increased 7.9 percent year-on-year to more than 5 trillion yuan ($814 billion), accounting for 9.6 percent of the country’s GDP. Edited by pachador, May 10 2013, 02:18 AM.
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