| Welcome to Philippines Defense Forces Forum. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Philippines-China WPS Dispute | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 15 2012, 02:28 PM (105,212 Views) | |
| Goose | Jul 31 2012, 05:51 AM Post #11 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Commodore Robles, bakit mo naman iaasa sa UN ang pagbabantay sa karagatan natin??? I thought the retired RAM stalwart is a wise man.. with his suggestion I've got no respect for him.. being a retired navy officer and he will say that.. we have a navy sir, all the country should do is provide it with the necessary equipment to better perform its mandated duty... of all people.. all retired and former military officers sounded like chicken (Ramos, Honasan, Trillanes, Biazon, now this Robles)... Hopefully Almonte is an exception.. |
![]() |
|
| spearhead | Jul 31 2012, 10:07 AM Post #12 |
|
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
The UN cannot just take side while supporting any UN marked patrol boats/ships without a strong and legitimate laws to back them up. This is the reason why the US have to finally step up the implementation of UNCLOS at WPS. |
"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato![]() ![]() | |
![]() |
|
| Ayoshi | Jul 31 2012, 12:20 PM Post #13 |
![]()
|
PH to bid out disputed S.China Sea oil, gas blocks www.abs-cbnnews.com MANILA - The Philippines will offer three areas in the South China Sea for oil and gas exploration on Tuesday, two of them in waters also claimed by China. Nido Petroleum Ltd of Australia, Spanish energy company Repsol, French gas and power firm GDF Suez and Italy's Eni are among 15 firms that have pre-qualified for the bids, although it is not clear if they will participate.
The dispute has become Asia's biggest potential military flashpoint as Beijing's sovereignty claim has particularly set it against Vietnam and the Philippines, with the three countries racing to tap possibly huge oil reserves. Read More |
![]() |
|
| wily_pest | Jul 31 2012, 01:03 PM Post #14 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Is it better to live under Aroyo's false peace and capitulation than Aquino's bold defiance to the Chinese? What we have now is the Phil. reassertion for it's own domain and, the emergence of a new economic and military power in Asia. Things may have to get worse before it gets better but, many great nations had to pass the same test. During the revolutionary war of the USA, the American army always scattered and ran when the British soldiers charged with fixed bayonets. The Americans lost most of the battles. But after the dreaded winter in Volley Forge, a Hessian officer named Von Stayven (who claimed he was a general and baron, and please check my spelling of his name) defected and sided with George Washington. He was assigned to train his troops in battle formations and fixed bayonet fights. When the American Continental army came out of hiding that spring, again after exchanging fire, the British came out and attacked with fixed bayonets with their usual arrogant confidence. To their surprise the Americans held their ground and fought them in their own game. After a brief encounter, the Brits fled the battle in stunned humiliation. The rest is history. |
| Management of many is the same as management of few. It is a matter of organization. Sun Tzu | |
![]() |
|
| Mckoyzzz | Aug 11 2012, 08:35 AM Post #15 |
|
Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
![]()
|
US: Palawan may be target of Chinese navy By Jose Katigbak Star, Washington Bureau (The Philippine Star) August 11, 2012 12:00 AM WASHINGTON -- China may target Palawan for a military attack to punish the Philippines for challenging its maritime claims in the South China Sea, Richard Fisher Jr., a US think tank military affairs analyst, said. He said the presence of the Chinese frigate Dongguan which ran aground last month near disputed Half Moon Shoal off Palawan, and the five or six Chinese ships that sailed to its aid were believed to be part of stepped-up efforts to enforce what Beijing calls its "Nine-dash Line" that outlines almost all of the South China Sea, which it claims as sovereign waters. Fisher, a senior fellow with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington-based think tank, was quoted extensively by Washington Times columnist Bill Gertz on Thursday. Accompanying Gertz's article was what he said was the first photo of Dongguan taken by a Filipino military photographer during a flight over the disputed Half Moon Shoal that both Beijing and Manila claim as their maritime territory. The shoal sits astride a key strategic waterway about 70 miles from the Philippine island province of Palawan. Gertz quoted a Philippine official as saying the photo showed "the bully that ran aground." Fisher said the Dongguan recently was upgraded with YJ-83 anti-ship cruise missiles, which have a range of 155 miles. It also has a new stealthy, infrared-suppressing exhaust stack. Philippine officials do not know why the Chinese warship sailed so close to Half Moon Shoal and ended up stuck in the sand, Gertz said. But some believe its presence is part of stepped-up efforts to enforce Beijing's "Nine-dash Line." Another theory is that the Chinese sought to survey the region ahead of an expected Philippines-sponsored, oil-prospecting venture that will begin this year or early next year. "The fact that several ships were in the vicinity of Half Moon Shoal able to render assistance to the Dongguan is a testament to the overall increased Chinese naval presence in this region, but also a testament to the (People's Liberation Army's) command and control capabilities," Fisher said. "While the grounding was a major embarrassment for China that provided a perhaps unintended military reinforcement to its diplomatic bullying at (a recent regional) summit, this incident also served to highlight the increasing strategic importance of Palawan," he said. Philstar |
![]() "Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong -- Dandemis" | |
![]() |
|
| Parastriker | Aug 11 2012, 01:34 PM Post #16 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
For once I want the entire Chinese Navy to be obliterated from this world. Add the PLAAF and PLANAF as well. First, they want to strike our territorial claims and now they want to strike our own territory as well. Well then, that's a cassus belli under the US-PH MDA. That's striking Philippine mainland territory. |
|
Success through information, victory through disinformation. "Good leaders make efficient followers. Great leaders make good followers. But true leaders make leaders out of mere followers." "Measuring the intelligence of a common internet user is as easy as looking at his/her grammar." | |
![]() |
|
| Hong Nam | Aug 11 2012, 10:51 PM Post #17 |
|
Bought by China
![]()
|
Well said. When you want something done. You have to do it yourself. It might not be pleasant but it will make you great. Patience, perseverance, and faith in your fellow men will lead you to a bright future. |
![]() Constructions Mecaniques de Normandie - C Sword 90 | |
![]() |
|
| Mckoyzzz | Aug 14 2012, 06:13 PM Post #18 |
|
Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
![]()
|
Cover page of a chinese naval magazine...
|
![]() "Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong -- Dandemis" | |
![]() |
|
| Frenzy | Aug 14 2012, 06:27 PM Post #19 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Di ba magaling ka din sa Photoshop Mc? Gawa ka din ng Pinoy version. Goyo sinking their aircraft carrier with only its gun. LOL. |
![]() |
|
| Mckoyzzz | Aug 14 2012, 06:34 PM Post #20 |
|
Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
![]()
|
Yup, I can do that pero this is a cover of a real naval magazine which is being circulated and sold (price is RMB8.00)... part of their wicked propaganda |
![]() "Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong -- Dandemis" | |
![]() |
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · West Philippine Sea · Next Topic » |





![]](http://z1.ifrm.com/static/1/pip_r.png)








Well said. 
8:29 AM Jul 11