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| PH Files Case vs China Before UNCLOS Tribunal; Ph challenges China's 9-dash claims in WPS at UN Tribunal | |
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| Hong Nam | Mar 3 2016, 11:58 PM Post #521 |
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If the next president withdraws our case against China, call him a TRAITOR Supreme Court Justice Antonio Carpio advised the country's next president to push through with the territorial dispute case before the United Nations-backed Arbitration Tribunal because withdrawing it would be catastrophic and a big blow against our Sovereignty and Constitution. "I think the case would be decided before the next president assumes office. In the event it would not be decided, and there's a new president, the UNCLOS itself encourages parties to come to an amicable settlement even while the case is going on." "If a new president comes in and the case is still going on, there is nothing wrong with talking to China. What is wrong is if the case is withdrawn. It should not be withdrawn... If the president will withdraw the case because we're willing to talk with China, that would be catastrophic." "Why don't we just cooperate with China? If the bully goes to your house, and say, 'get out,' and you have the title of your house, but because he's a bully and you're a small guy, will you just tell him, 'Okay, I'll give you one half of the house?' The UNCLOS grants us 200 nautical miles, the same with China." "We have an agreement (under UNCLOS). China is saying we are entitled to 200 nautical miles but we’re claiming the rest of the South China Sea because of historic right. They cannot do that anymore... Fifty-fifty na lang? It would be unconstitutional. A person who would do that would be impeached." - Supreme Court Justice Antonio Carpio Source Edited by Hong Nam, Mar 3 2016, 11:58 PM.
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| MSantor | Mar 25 2016, 10:53 PM Post #522 |
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Another reason why other claimants are watching the UNCLOSE case: Philippine Star
Edited by MSantor, Mar 25 2016, 10:55 PM.
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"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." - Henry Ford "Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking"- Gen. George S. Patton | |
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| MSantor | Apr 14 2016, 11:29 PM Post #523 |
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"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." - Henry Ford "Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking"- Gen. George S. Patton | |
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| Andres Boning | Apr 15 2016, 04:09 AM Post #524 |
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^WHAATTA?!!!They didn't stop China from building their illegal artificial Islands and it's continuously happening even as we speak, so why include PH??? Would they say the same thing to Japan in Senkakus? O yah, I forgot.. that the yanks doesn't acknowledge our claims.. We should elect a President that cannot and will not be dictated and easily used by anybody like the US or China. Our BIG problem is that all Presidential candidates are sick, the only one sana who is qualified has stage 4 C and all the rest are sick in their individual heads and are all committing "Acts of unbecoming" Yan ang mga tunay na "Laughing stock."
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| icefrog | Apr 15 2016, 11:03 AM Post #525 |
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It's not just the US anymore that China has to contend with after UNCLOS makes its ruling. The reason why China threw a fit after the G7 nations made a unified statement is because that implies the G7 nations not just the US and Japan will probably try to enforce/oblige China to respect the UNCLOS ruling. As for China's side, expect them to downplay the ruling, tell unclos has no jurisdiction, etc.. And possibly try to divide the G7 nations by saying the UK does not respect UN ruling as well. |
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| bandofbros | Apr 15 2016, 01:23 PM Post #526 |
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Its not only China... also the Philippines would downplay the ruling of the arbitration if Duterte wins. |
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| raider1011 | Apr 15 2016, 04:49 PM Post #527 |
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China’s Plan B: Binay-Bongbong By Rodel Rodis Inquirer
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God grant me the courage not to give up what I think is right even though I think it is hopeless. || Chester W. Nimitz Loyalty to the Nation ALL the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it. || Mark Twain | |
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| Andres Boning | Apr 15 2016, 06:36 PM Post #528 |
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It's pretty clear that this article is another one of the Aquino/ LP's desperate demolition job for Sen. FMJr, reason why they included him here.. While truly believe with Binay's possible China connections, I do believe Sen. Marcos as he explained before many times over, re: China in WPS claims, technically it's much better in a way to approach this bilaterally if China will acknowledge our rights, put all these things in a back burner as before, for so many years.. We have a long history with China as trading partners. Sa totoo lang iba ang interest ng mga kano kesa sa atin sa WPS, halimbawa nalang ang hindi nila pag acknowledge sa "Panatag Shoal" bilang parte ng teritoryo ng Pilipinas, na alam naman nila ang tunay na katotohanan, atbp. Kaya mas gusto ni BBM na Bilateral. Di tayo importante sa kanila kesa sa halimbawa ng Japan. Yung EDCA, nagkaroon na naman ng pagkakataon ang mga kano na patakamin anng ating mga sundalong Pinoy ng kanilang kagamitan, para mag laway tayo, pero kapag hinagad natin na bumili ng kapareho niyan, SASABIHIN LANG SA ATIN NA HINDI PWEDE AT ITO LANG ANG BAGAY SA IYO, MGA PINAGLUMAAN KO NA WHECs at bawal sa inyo ang malalakas na armas. I truly believe BBM's approach if ever he get's the chance to lead with regards to this issues with China would be different and that he will always try to put the Country and the Filipino Peoples interests first. Or he will have far better plans for PH especially with Foreign Policy, to have a formidable AFP in future with nil or minimal reliance from the Americans. I'm not anti KAno, but just want our Country to have a true Leader that cannot be stepped on easily, one that cannot be compromised, one who doesn't seek war but prepares to be ready for it. Depende lanag talaga ito kung sino kausap nila, kung gaano ka intelligent, puros wala naman kasi utak, puro porma at makasarili ang mga naging Leader talaga ng Pilipinas 30 yrs. after ng Tatay niya at wala man lang ni isa na naibalik sa bayan na mga infrastructures, tapos mga SUPER Corrupt pa at puros mga mayayamang capitalistang oligharchs lang ang yumayaman o pinapayaman imbes ang bayang Pilipinas. This is the reason WHY regardless of the "Martial Law era" alleged Corruption, hidden wealth etc.. of his Father hunts him by way to discredit his run for VP, BBM is leading and climbing non-stop to the second highest post race in PH. PROOF that 30 yrs of nothing for Inang Bayan and the Filipino People, but only just "FAKE Democracy", Graft n Corruption of leaders who were given the chance to prove that they are right in what they are fighting for back then.. while the ordinary Filipino masses were being used back then by capitalist, these Anti Marcos leaders were given the chance to lead, but NOT one of them are worth it. Edited by Andres Boning, Apr 15 2016, 06:40 PM.
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| icefrog | Apr 16 2016, 02:05 PM Post #529 |
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The vice president has no say on the foreign policy of the next administration unless his or her president is on the same ticket/party w/c is unlikely. Some VPs don't even like to have a Cabinet level position. |
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| ganymede09 | Apr 16 2016, 04:34 PM Post #530 |
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bilateral talks? look at what good that did Vietnam.....and their leadership is much closer with the chinese than what the Philippines can ever hope for, but look how many times were they stabbed in the back for all the world to see....Tayo pa kaya na much weaker militarily. It's pretty clear that china only respects power and negotiating with them at this time bilaterally like what marcos and binay wants to do would only feed their ego and show how much more superior they are...and you can only expect a lopsided agreement from any talks. As they say, when negotiating, negotiate from a position of strength. On this issue, marcos is naive at best and at worst...well look at binay. |
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