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| gammy322 | Jul 14 2015, 06:23 PM Post #471 |
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The Philippines will never go into bilateral negotiations with the Chinese considering what they did in a very simple condition in Scarborough Shoal for both countries move out for awhile.... Put that fat tummy attorney and the coward congressman cum soldier in a cannon of Sierra Madre and make a big boom when a Chinese CG passes by...
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| bandofbros | Jul 15 2015, 12:25 AM Post #472 |
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I believe the conclusion to these would still be a bilateral agreement between China and the Philippines, but that's probably way way along the road 20 or 25 years from now. As presumed also by Justice Carpio, this would be a generational challenge. But the case would need to be resolved first and see where it goes. |
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| pachador | Jul 15 2015, 12:54 AM Post #473 |
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This is probably what the bully will suggest in the bilateral talks and offer billions of dollars as bait. that is the bully's style that they can try to bribe countries and people . in any case its a very bad idea to agree to bilateral talks as we have tried it hundreds of times with the bully already, it will just be on their terms. some of those politicians who keep reminding the govt to try bilateral negotiations were prodded by their businessmen benefactors to do so who in turn were instructed by the bully.
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| icefrog | Jul 15 2015, 01:09 AM Post #474 |
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I hope you are right that it's a long way to go but sorry. I do not trust politicians esp. specific ones. Who knows what the next President will do or the next Congress. If there is any truth to that Chinese drug Lord being a source of payola money to pay off some congressmen to pass bbl in. The house of Representatives then China can very well do that as well with specific politicians. Heck, some former soldiers turned politicians are already arguing for bilateral talks as early as now and even prodding to junk our case in the tribunal immediately. |
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| bandofbros | Jul 15 2015, 03:00 PM Post #475 |
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Its indeed a challenge... a long challenge. And the first hurdle will be to win our UNCLOS case. As that would be a chip on our side on the bargaining table come later on. Yes our political climate isn't as robust as even Vietnam nor Bangladesh in terms of its support to the military nor to their countries diplomatic agenda. Even as today, with presidential election looming next year, we already are seeing a challenge to the government's position with regards to our territory and our status quo with China. It's depressing really.... that's why we're just hoping... I'm hoping for at least a better climate with the next and the next administrations that will come after. Edited by bandofbros, Jul 15 2015, 03:01 PM.
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| Hong Nam | Jul 17 2015, 09:05 PM Post #476 |
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Int'l tribunal vows to rule on jurisdiction issue on PHL-China sea row before yearend By Michaela Del Callar MANILA, July 17 (PNA) - The Netherlands-based Permanent Court of Arbitration has vowed to hand down a decision on whether it will assume jurisdiction on the Philippines’ case against China in the West Philippine Sea “as soon as possible,” saying a ruling is expected before the year ends. In a statement on Monday, the tribunal said it has already entered the deliberations phase upon the conclusion of the oral arguments from July 7 to 13 in The Hague. The tribunal “is conscious of its duty under the Rules of Procedure to conduct proceedings to avoid unnecessary delay and expense and to provide a fair and efficient process,” the statement said. The court also asked the Philippines to submit “further written responses” until July 23 to questions raised by the five-member arbitration body. “Before making its award, the arbitral tribunal must satisfy itself not only that it has jurisdiction over the dispute but also that the claim is well founded in fact and in law,” the PCA said.(PNA) RMA/MDC/RSM PNA Edited by Hong Nam, Jul 17 2015, 09:06 PM.
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| MSantor | Jul 22 2015, 12:04 AM Post #477 |
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"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." - Henry Ford "Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking"- Gen. George S. Patton | |
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| MSantor | Jul 23 2015, 09:39 PM Post #478 |
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One view from one author; perhaps he's on China's payroll: Diplomat/url]
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"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." - Henry Ford "Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking"- Gen. George S. Patton | |
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| Hong Nam | Jul 23 2015, 10:22 PM Post #479 |
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That's Dingding Chen. He's definitely on his country's side. Here are few examples of his views: - The other claimants have also carried out land reclamation. - The important thing is that China does not “harbor offensive intentions toward other countries. - Because China is still a “developing country” with many internal political and economic challenges, its foreign policy will be cautious for decades to come. - Anxiety over China’s South China Sea policy is tantamount to “threat inflation and overreaction, which often are sources of unnecessary conflict. - The United States Should Invite China to RIMPAC 2016 because cooperation is better than confrontation despite them sending a spy ship. - A deepening U.S.-Japan alliance might actually hurt Japan’s security interests. - China's island-building in the South China Sea is no threat as China’s activities remain peaceful and defensive in nature. - The US should believe Chinese Vice Premier Wang Yang’s words: China will not seek hegemony. - The US should stop sending surveillance aircraft to China’s doorstep - that being international airspace. - China is a different kind of global power and won't become another United States. It’s a good thing that China is just being China. Edited by Hong Nam, Jul 23 2015, 10:42 PM.
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| Bastion | Jul 23 2015, 10:33 PM Post #480 |
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What can we expect from an author named Dingding Chen. Dingding can't force us to believe in what she or he writes anyway. What is important is we know that this is the only move that our country has done single handedly, that has thrown a giant bully like China out of balance. And for me, that is a great Achievement. Why would a proud bully practically beg us to pull out the case if they think it will be good for them in the long run? |
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