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| PH Files Case vs China Before UNCLOS Tribunal; Ph challenges China's 9-dash claims in WPS at UN Tribunal | |
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| dewey | May 4 2014, 09:29 AM Post #341 |
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now, what in tarnation are they saying that they have sovereignty over spratlys way back whatever dynasty when as recent as 1933, they dont know where it is??? Edited by Mckoyzzz, May 12 2014, 01:31 PM.
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| Hong Nam | May 4 2014, 12:08 PM Post #342 |
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And they even admitted that it was not part of their territory! "These islands are not part of Xisha. Triton Island (in Xisha) is the southernmost part of our territory. South of Triton Island, there is no connection with the Chinese territory." Edited by Mckoyzzz, May 12 2014, 01:31 PM.
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| dewey | May 6 2014, 08:36 PM Post #343 |
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i think this is why they dont want to join the arbitration, they fear that facts like these will be dug up and exposed. seems like their only option now is their excuse of them not recognizing the arbitration. i really do hope we win this im curious though. if we win the arbitration and un declare the 9 dash line illegal, will the whole 200nm eez be given to us including the ones being occupied by them comedians? im fine with sharing of the southernmost part of the eez with our neighbor. Edited by Mckoyzzz, May 12 2014, 01:31 PM.
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| Hong Nam | May 7 2014, 10:48 PM Post #344 |
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The Vietnamese foreign ministry, raised the possibility of Hanoi taking the dispute to international arbitration. - Now they're considering it. They sure took their sweet time. - Fence sitting for too long and prolonged "testing the waters" has its disadvantages.
Edited by Hong Nam, May 7 2014, 10:55 PM.
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| Hong Nam | Jun 3 2014, 01:19 AM Post #345 |
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China's Ascent has Asia on Edge. Could International Law Help? Ali Wyne June 2, 2014 "Japan for the rule of law. Asia for the rule of law. And the rule of law for all of us. A rule of law at sea that is grounded in three principles: the countries of the Asia-Pacific region should make and clarify their claims based on international law. Not use force or coercion in trying to drive their claims and seek to settle disputes by peaceful means." - Shinzo Abe, Japanese Prime Minister "A crucial test for the Asia-Pacific is whether nations will choose to resolve disputes through diplomacy and well-established international rules and norms, or through intimidation and coercion. The U.S. would support efforts by any nation to lower tensions and peacefully resolve disputes in accordance with international law." - Chuck Hagel, U.S. Secretary of Defense International law is the one relevant theater in which the playing field would appear to favor China's neighbors. If the tribunal finds the nine-dash line to be legal, it would effectively eliminate the possibility of a successful nonviolent challenge to China's maritime claims. In the more likely case that it finds that boundary to be partly or entirely illegal, there are at least three ways in which China could respond: - Accept the ruling and adopt less expansive maritime claims: While this possibility may well be far-fetched, the lawyer whom the Philippines have retained cautious against dismissing it outright. "Decisions, judgments, and awards by international courts and tribunals are complied with in more than 95% of the cases, including by big powers such as the United States." - Paul Reichler - Ignore the ruling: This possibility seems most likely. "China has refused to participate in the arbitration and will disregard any judgment against it. And that will be that. The judges can no more compel China to yield the Spratlys or Paracels than they could detach those islands from the seabed and tow them away." - Eric Posner, University of Chicago Law School - Commit to taking the ruling under consideration: China would effectively be ignoring it without rejecting it. The trouble with this intermediate course is that it would still give China's neighbors ample legal and diplomatic ammunition; they would likely frame it as an implicit concession by China that the nine-dash line is illegal. It would be wrong, however, to place the onus of upholding international law solely on China. "Vietnam should make plain its willingness to submit to the ICJ its territorial claims over the Spratlys, including those islands and other features that it currently occupies. All six neighbors of China that are parties to the Asia-Pacific's maritime disputes - Brunei, Japan, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan, and Vietnam - should declare their willingness to have their claims evaluated by an international tribunal." - Jerome Cohen, New York University School of Law While the U.S. may not be party to those disputes, its pushback against China would be more powerful if it ratified the Law of the Sea Treaty. "Increasingly, America's absence from the treaty undermines its arguments to China about the supremacy of international law... From the U.S. perspective, the legal counter to China under the treaty is all the more important given the alternatives. Confronting China with force is an option fraught with incalculable risks. War between China and the U.S., even a limited one, would be catastrophic... The Law of the Sea isn't the only answer to the region's increasingly risky maritime disputes. But with a lack of better ones, the apparent contradiction in the U.S. position weakens the power of its argument." - Andrew Browne, The Wall Street Journal The National Interest Edited by Hong Nam, Jun 3 2014, 01:21 AM.
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| PinoyAko | Jun 4 2014, 11:33 AM Post #346 |
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China told to answer PH pleading on sea dispute By Dharel Placido, ABS-CBNnews.com Posted at 06/04/2014 10:54 AM | Updated as of 06/04/2014 10:54 AM
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| Ayoshi | Jun 4 2014, 02:48 PM Post #347 |
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| gammy322 | Jun 5 2014, 01:01 AM Post #348 |
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China again dismisses PHL court case in sea dispute June 4, 2014 5:20pm 907 19 0 943 MANILA - China on Wednesday rejected an arbitration tribunal's ruling giving it six months to respond to a case filed by the Philippines over disputed waters, saying it has no plans to take part. China claims almost the entire South China Sea, rejecting rival claims to parts from Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia and Brunei in one of Asia's most intractable disputes and a possible flashpoint. It also has a separate maritime dispute with Japan over islands in the East Sea. The tribunal in The Hague gave Beijing until Dec. 15 to reply to the first international case filed against China related to the energy-rich waters. http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/364176/news/nation/china-again-dismisses-phl-court-case-in-sea-dispute |
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| Ayoshi | Jun 5 2014, 11:24 AM Post #349 |
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G7 backs legal remedy, opposes coercion in South China Sea [philstar] June 5, 2014
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| Mckoyzzz | Jun 5 2014, 10:00 PM Post #350 |
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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I'm waiting for China to again issue their pre-fabricated statement to the tune of, "we hope that the United States, United Kingdom, Italy, Japan, Germany, France, Canada, Philippines, Vietnam, ASEAN and the European Union to stop making irresponsible comments and stop mudding the water in the South China Sea. And to the rest of the world, you are all wrong and we are right..." |
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