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| PH Files Case vs China Before UNCLOS Tribunal; Ph challenges China's 9-dash claims in WPS at UN Tribunal | |
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| Santi Kampilan | Jun 26 2013, 12:44 AM Post #221 |
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IMO a good choice. At least he studied and worked in the US. His company supplied Gulf War stuff 'cuz he is a brainiac in fiber optics.Thomas Mensah Edited by Santi Kampilan, Jun 26 2013, 12:48 AM.
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| Ayoshi | Jun 29 2013, 11:40 PM Post #222 |
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Malaysia respects Phl decision to bring sea row to UN www.philstar.com June 29, 2013
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| Hong Nam | Jul 9 2013, 04:02 PM Post #223 |
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Bought by China
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http://thespratlyjournal.blogspot.com/2013/07/why-china-will-not-bring-spratlys-issue.html Why China will not bring the Spratlys issue to the United Nations Let’s imagine what most likely would happen if China does take her case to the International Court of Justice and the representative of China — let’s call him Mr. Lee — is before the Court headed by the Presiding Judge. Consider this scenario: Judge: “Please inform this Court of the basis for your claim that the entire South China Sea aka West Philippine Sea belongs completely to the People’s Republic of China?” Mr. Lee: “Thank you, your honor. Our claim is based on the historical fact that this entire area has belonged to us since the Han Dynasty.” Judge: “How do you intend to prove your case?” Mr. Lee: “I will present to this Court an almost two thousand year old Han Dynasty map that indicates the limits of the Han Dynasty kingdom.” Judge: “Let’s assume for purposes of discussion that the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and other surrounding countries were provinces or part of the Han Dynasty during its time even if the map you hold may just actually be a navigational map which does not really define the limits of the Han Dynasty. Now my study of China’s history indicate that the Han Dynasty lasted from 206 B.C. To 220 A.D. Is this correct?” Mr. Lee: “Yes your honor.” Judge: “I assume Mr. Lee that you are familiar with Alexander the Great, the young Macedonian king who conquered much of the ancient world.” Mr. Lee: “I am, your honor.” Judge: “At the time of his death in 323 B.C., Alexander’s kingdom included Greece, Syria, Persia now known as Iran, Egypt and a part of India. Are you aware Mr. Lee that Macedonia, Alexander’s country — is now known as the Republic of Macedonia?” Mr. Lee: “If you say so your honor.” Judge: “Good! You appear to know your history. I assume you are also familiar with the Roman Empire which existed for over a thousand years.” Mr. Lee: “Thank you your honor, I do read history.” Judge: “You are then aware Mr. Lee that at its height, the Roman Empire included most of Europe and parts of Africa and Asia.” Mr. Lee: “I am aware, your honor.” Judge: “Now Mr. Lee, since the time of Alexander, the Roman Empire and the Han Dynasty — through the course of time and historical events, various independent countries have emerged in Europe, Africa and Asia — which now have their own respective territories. This is a reality which we all have to accept, wouldn’t you say?” Mr. Lee: “We cannot deny reality, your honor.” Judge: “Now Mr. Lee, another undeniable reality is that Alexander’s empire, the Roman empire and the Han Dynasty kingdom are no longer existent — am I correct in my observation? Mr. Lee: “You are correct, your honor.” Judge: “Now Mr.Lee, in all candor, do you seriously believe that if the Republic of Macedonia and the Italian government were to come before this Court and petition us to affirm that they own the territories of these now independent countries because they were once a part of Alexander’s empire or the Roman empire — that we would be persuaded to grant these petitions?” Mr. Lee: “I understand what you are getting at, Judge — but most of what we are claiming as ours is marine area and not land.” Judge: “The Spratlys and the Paracel islands are not land? Anyway, isn’t it a fact that China is a signatory to the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) which she ratified on July 6, 1996 thereby agreeing to be bound by its provisions — and part of which is that anything within 200 miles from the baseline of a country belongs to that country? Mr. Lee: “China did agree to those provisions at a time when it was not yet aware of the far reaching consequences of UNCLOS to her national interests.” Judge: “I will not mince my words Mr. Lee. What you mean is that at that time, the world, including China, was not yet aware, that vast deposits of oil and natural gas were to be found within the territorial limits of neighboring countries. Now because of this awareness, even if China knows she is trespassing and violating international law, she is using the coercive might of her size, military or otherwise — to grab these enormous reserves of petrowealth from the territories of her smaller, weaker, poorer neighbors — who badly need these assets to improve the plight of their own people. Postscript: In view of all the facts and existing applicable law, the likelihood is that the UN court will find China’s petition to be without merit. |
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| gammy322 | Jul 10 2013, 05:26 PM Post #224 |
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UN arbitral tribunal on PH case vs China meets in Hamburg on jurisdiction By: Veronica C. Uy, InterAksyon.com July 10, 2013 4:09 PM MANILA - The five-member United Nations tribunal that will hear the arbitration case the Philippines sought over its territorial dispute with China is now meeting in Hamburg, where it will decide whether it has jurisdiction over the case, University of the Philippines law professor Atty. Harry Roque said. Roque, of UP’s Institute of International Legal Studies, said the tribunal would have to “examine its own jurisdiction” over the case that the Philippines filed January this year over China’s objections. http://www.interaksyon.com/article/66030/un-arbitral-tribunal-on-ph-case-vs-china-meets-in-hamburg-on-jurisdiction |
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| Mckoyzzz | Jul 10 2013, 08:33 PM Post #225 |
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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the moment of truth... |
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| gammy322 | Jul 11 2013, 01:01 AM Post #226 |
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Abangan ang susunod na kabanata....Go Philippines!!!
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| fernandez705 | Jul 11 2013, 02:51 AM Post #227 |
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sir hong you forgot about the mongolian empire now that will shut beijing up.
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| raider1011 | Jul 11 2013, 07:16 AM Post #228 |
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Finally something that matters. If you're a religious person now is the time to pray. |
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God grant me the courage not to give up what I think is right even though I think it is hopeless. || Chester W. Nimitz Loyalty to the Nation ALL the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it. || Mark Twain | |
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| Hong Nam | Jul 12 2013, 12:36 AM Post #229 |
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http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/07/12/964500/arbitration-process-peaceful-way-solve-maritime-dispute snipped: Member-states of the United Nations, through general assembly resolution 37/10, have also declared that arbitration is not an unfriendly act. European Council President Herman Van Rompuy has acknowledged the Philippines’ decision to resolve territorial maritime issues peacefully and within the framework of international law was the right path to take. |
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| Mckoyzzz | Jul 16 2013, 05:25 PM Post #230 |
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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AT LAST!
Edited by Mckoyzzz, Jul 16 2013, 05:34 PM.
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now that will shut beijing up.
8:33 AM Jul 11