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| PH Files Case vs China Before UNCLOS Tribunal; Ph challenges China's 9-dash claims in WPS at UN Tribunal | |
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| raider1011 | Jan 28 2013, 04:34 PM Post #101 |
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![]() . . . here is an illustrative cartoon from a Chinese newspaper, “JingChu Times”, in Central China (although originally from another publication). Although one doesn’t need to read Chinese to get the jist, here is my attempt to translate anyway. The Foot is labeled: “Chinese Territory” The Fish biting the Foot’s toe is labeled: “The Philippines”. The Fish is holding a sign with the words: “Mine!”. Yes, this Annex VII UNCLOS arbitration claim is really sending shock waves throughout China. Opinio Juris Edited by raider1011, Jan 28 2013, 04:38 PM.
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God grant me the courage not to give up what I think is right even though I think it is hopeless. || Chester W. Nimitz Loyalty to the Nation ALL the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it. || Mark Twain | |
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| raider1011 | Jan 28 2013, 05:05 PM Post #102 |
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Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hong Lei's Regular Press Conference on January 23, 2013 Q: First, it is reported that the electoral alliance formed by incumbent Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party and the far right Jewish Home party bids fair to win the 19th Israeli parliamentary election. What is China's comment? Second, Philippine Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario reportedly said on January 22 that the Philippines would ask for international arbitration on its dispute with China on the South China Sea. How does China respond? A: On your first question, relevant election is Israel's internal affair. We have no comment. On your second question, China has indisputable sovereignty over the Nansha Islands and their adjacent waters. It is based on full historical and jurisprudential evidence. Territorial sovereignty dispute caused by the Philippines' illegal encroachment on some islets of China's Nansha Islands is the root cause and essence of relevant dispute between China and the Philippines in the South China Sea. China has been firmly opposed to that. Bearing China-Philippines relations and regional peace and stability in mind, China has been committed to resolving disputes through bilateral consultation and negotiation, which reflects China's good faith and sincerity. To solve relevant disputes through negotiation between directly-concerned sovereign states is also the consensus between China and ASEAN countries as stipulated in the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC). All the signatories to the DOC should stand by their solemn commitments. We hope that relevant country would keep its word, earnestly and fully carry out the DOC and refrain from taking actions that could complicate and aggravate this issue. |
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| Mckoyzzz | Jan 28 2013, 05:25 PM Post #103 |
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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sounds like a carefully thought-out case by the Philippines... they must have looked at every nooks and corners of this case before officially filing it to UNCLOS... |
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| raider1011 | Jan 28 2013, 05:37 PM Post #104 |
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^I hope you're right. Here's the guy our legal team picked to sit on the arbitral tribunal: Judge Rüdiger Wolfrum, a German jurist. China is obliged to appoint their man within 30 days. The remaining members, each country will nominate their picks and then debate the final three. If China refuses to participate, the President of ITLOS (Judge Yanai, Japanese) will name the final four members. Edited by raider1011, Jan 28 2013, 05:45 PM.
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God grant me the courage not to give up what I think is right even though I think it is hopeless. || Chester W. Nimitz Loyalty to the Nation ALL the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it. || Mark Twain | |
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| Mckoyzzz | Jan 28 2013, 05:38 PM Post #105 |
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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same old poopy statement by China...
it seemed all Chinese spokesperson or anyone being interviewed memorize these lines and given like an automated answer... |
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| seWer Rat | Jan 28 2013, 05:57 PM Post #106 |
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They know we have a strong chance of winning a favorable verdict under the UNCLOS thats why they always bring forth the "bilateral agreement" which is just obvious stonewalling of course. |
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| Mckoyzzz | Jan 28 2013, 06:25 PM Post #107 |
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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There IS a chinese member of the tribunal... Zhiguo Gao (China) Anyhow, according to the UNCLOS, the judges in the tribunal are selected based on those "persons enjoying the highest reputation for fairness and integrity and of recognized competence in the field of the law of the sea.". |
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| raider1011 | Jan 28 2013, 06:48 PM Post #108 |
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Arbitral tribunal under Annex VII is not the same as ITLOS, the case is before the arbitral tribunal not ITLOS. Gao sits on ITLOS a permanent body but has not been formally nominated for the ad hoc arbitral tribunal unlike Wolfrum. Gao might be China's pick eventually but that hasn't happened yet.
Edited by raider1011, Jan 28 2013, 06:53 PM.
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| raider1011 | Jan 28 2013, 07:17 PM Post #109 |
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Many people are confused even the experts. To put it to rest, again, the case is before the arbitral tribunal not ITLOS. Ad hoc (temporary) arbitral tribunal is not the same as ITLOS a permanent body. We had the choice to file the case at ITLOS but in the end we chose an arbitral tribunal.
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| Prinsipe Abante | Jan 28 2013, 08:07 PM Post #110 |
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I beg your pardon Mr. Diminus, marami kami dito mga Fil-Am and Fil-Brit na magkakilala sa trabaho here in Lakenheath, Mildenhall and other US Bases here in UK, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you are mistaken Sir, Mr. AVB and I are just two of the many few PDFF member friends works in the field w/ USAF and NATO. Sana lang nakikita niyo rin yung iba kapag nag "Team tag" sila or may ginagawang inappropriate para kasing na single out yung iba? We're just group of friends who share same opinions most of the time. Other members here often times minamaliit pa ang ibang "expat" members dito, FYI Filipino Immigrants feels more Nationalistic than most of the Pinoys living in P.I., with less the crab and corruption, for we represent the Philippines on a daily basis. I'm surprised at nag warning kayo, when sa isa pang kaibigan namin dito na si Tony Stark eh banned agad w/o warning? Some MODs here are Bias sad to say. FYI, most of the time we all use the same WiFi hotspot inside the base.
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