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HK Bus Hostage Tragedy 2010 (aftermath. etc.); updates, discussions
Topic Started: Aug 23 2010, 12:08 PM (6,527 Views)
Ayoshi
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To apologize or not to apologize? Senators weigh in on Hong Kong sanction issue (interaksyon.com)
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What do senators think?

Expectedly, lawmakers allied with President Aquino led by Senate President Franklin Drilon supported the administration stand not to apologize, saying the victims have already been compensated.
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Senate President Frank Drilon
“We should not apologize. China did not apologize for the death of a Filipino tourist in Beijing. Apologies has been made below the President’s level,” Drilon said in an interview with reporters before the session began Wednesday.
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Sen. Bam Aquino
Senator Aquino believed that the territorial dispute with China over the Panatag shoal played an important part in the stand of President Aquino not to apologize to Hong Kong.
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Sen. Sonny Angara
“There are other ways to repair relations. You shouldn't do it under the barrel of a threat,” Angara said.
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Sen. Tito Sotto
”I would rather be humble and apologize,” Sotto said.
Sen. Bongbong Marcos
“But from the outside looking in, and having had some experience of being inside the Palace and the workings inside the Palace, again I don’t think it would be to the detriment of the Philippines for this apology to be forthcoming from the Philippine government,” he said.
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Sen. Tito Sotto ”I would rather be humble and aplagiarize,” :lollol: sori couldnt help it BTT
LET'S RAISE OUR MIDDLE FINGERs TO THE MIDDLE KINGDOM.
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raider1011


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06 February, 2014

Opportunistic politicians such as Albert Chan Wai-yip and Ray Chan Chi-chuen, both of People Power, who have been calling for sanctions, have squeezed every mileage out of this tragedy. What irony that our supposedly Beijing-stooge of a government is following the lead of the loudest and most irresponsible pan-democratic party. The sanctions must have Beijing's support, too.

Yes, as a community, Hong Kong and its government have every responsibility to help the families of the victims - in fighting for compensation, raising funds, perhaps even making their legal case in court. We should help them recover from their unimaginable trauma any way we can. But it's not our responsibility to ensnare the whole city in a diplomatic spat, a foreign affairs matter over which Leung's government may not even have proper legal authority.

Imagine the killings happened in Washington or Beijing where the taking of hostages by deranged individuals is not unknown. Do you think Barack Obama or Xi Jinping would apologise or even bother to negotiate?

South China Morning Post

Our local "opportunistic" politicians pressing for an apology = kowtowing to internal Hongkong politics. Wittingly or unwittingly. :armyroleyes:
Edited by raider1011, Feb 6 2014, 08:23 PM.
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Behave, OFWs in HK told (inquirer.net)
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MANILA, Philippines—Amid the diplomatic spat with Hong Kong, Labor Secretary Rosalinda Baldoz has advised Filipinos living and working in the Chinese territory to do their jobs well and behave.

The overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) should “carry on with their commitment and dedication to work, continue to maintain good relations with their employers, and follow the rules and regulations of Hong Kong authorities,” Baldoz said Thursday in a statement.

She also assured the OFWs their government was ready for “any eventuality” and would ensure their welfare and protection.
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Erap: HK mission is a joint effort with national gov't (abs-cbnnews.com)
4/22/2014
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Estrada, together with other Manila councilors, will be meeting with Hong Kong Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying. The meeting will also include Cabinet Secretary Rene Almendras and Philippine National Police Director General Alan Purisima.

Asked if the presence of the 2 Aquino officials already meant an apology from the National Government, Estrada said: “That is already a sign because the President is being represented by his own Cabinet members.”

Aquino earlier dismissed apologizing to Hong Kong over the bungled police rescue during the hostage crisis, saying it was an act of only one man.

This, even as Hong Kong continued to impose sanctions on the Philippines. The last time, Hong Kong scrapped the visa-free privileges for Philippine government officials.
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Hong Kong, Philippines resolve hostage crisis issue (rappler.com)
Apr 23, 2014
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A joint statement released by the two governments on Wednesday, April 23, said that "the HKSAR Government and the Government of the Republic of the Philippines have agreed that the 4 demands made by the victims and their families on apology, compensation, sanctions against responsible officials and individuals, and tourist safety measures" had been resolved.

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The statement instead said the Philippines "expresses its most sorrowful regret and profound sympathy, and extends its most sincere condolences for the pain and suffering of the victims and their families."

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The Philippine Government is also said to give "an additional token of solidarity" to victims or their families "as a most sincere gesture of compassion of the people of the Philippines" although the statement did not give any details about the said token.

Additionally, the statement said "Philippine Government has assured the HKSAR Government that measures are being undertaken to hold to account those responsible and to see the outstanding proceedings conclude as soon as possible."
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2 police execs demoted for bungled Luneta hostage crisis
By Mike Frialde (philstar.com) | Updated August 11, 2014 - 3:31pm

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MANILA, Philippines - The National Police Commission (Napolcom) has penalized two more police officials involved in the bungled police operation during the Aug. 23, 2010 Luneta hostage crisis that resulted in the tragic death of eight Hong Kong tourists.

The order came after the Office of the President ordered the imposition of the maximum penalty of dismissal from the service of former Manila Police District (MPD) director Chief Supt. Rodolfo Magtibay.

Earlier, the Office of the President said it agrees with the factual findings of the Napolcom which found Magtibay liable for gross incompetence for being remiss in performing his duties as the ground or on-scene commander during the incident at the Quirino Grandstand at the Rizal Park (formerly called Luneta).


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Escueta said the Napolcom originally meted the medium penalty of one rank demotion on Magtibay after he was found guilty of gross incompetence over his failure to give specific and clear instructions to his men that ended in confusion and lack of coordinative action.


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Escueta said that aside from Magtibay, the Napolcom en banc also found Superintendent Orlando Yebra and Chief Inspector Santiago David Pascual III guilty of gross incompetence and meted them the penalty of one rank demotions, which was already implemented with the resolution of their motion for reconsideration last January.


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Escueta said the Napolcom ruled that Yebra fell short of his duty as the chief negotiator after he failed to alert his superiors to be ready when Mendoza appeared agitated and angry.

Yebra was also found by the Napolcom to have failed as hostage negotiator and crisis manager when he “lost focus and composure in front of the hostage taker.” The Napolcom added that Yebra’s manhandling of SPO2 Gregorio Mendoza - a brother of the hostage taker – “further inflamed the situation.”


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Pascual, meanwhile, the over-all assault team leader of the Manla Police Department’s Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) was found liable by the Napolcom for the disorganized manner of the rescue operations and for his failure to inform the ground commander that the MPD SWAT was not skilled in dealing with the incident in terms of equipment.

The Napolcom said Pascual had failed to make proper coordination and due diligence that could have mitigated the extent of the tragedy.


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Meanwhile, Escueta said the Napolcom has also ordered the dismissal from the service of Senior Police Officer 2 Gregorio Mendoza, the brother of the hostage taker, for serious neglect of duty and grave misconduct.

According to Escueta, Mendoza failed to perform his duty as part of the negotiating panel as he added to the problem when he demanded for the return of his service firearm as a condition for the release of the hostages.

Escueta added that Mendoza was also penalized for carrying his firearm while in civilian attire. He explained that police officers are prohibited to display their service firearms, have guns tucked in their waists or inserted in their waistbands or holsters while in civilian attire.

He said Philippine National Police issuances provide that carrying of service firearms in civilian attire requires the presentation of a proper mission order.


http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/08/11/1356396/2-police-execs-demoted-bungled-luneta-hostage-crisis
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