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| PH: We’ll Take A Stand, With Or Without US; West Philippine Sea | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 15 2012, 12:58 AM (7,930 Views) | |
| Hong Nam | Dec 15 2012, 12:58 AM Post #1 |
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PH: We'll Take a Stand, With Or Without US MANILA, Philippines --- With or without the Americans, the Philippines will take a stand on the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) row.This fact was made clear by the Philippine government when its military officials met with their United States counterparts during their last Mutual Defense Board (MDB) meeting held in Honolulu, Hawaii.. "As soon as we sat down, we asked them (US military officials) if we can just talk freely and that's what happened," Philippine Navy Flag Officer in Command Alexander Pama told Manila Bulletin in an interview as he explained that prior to the MDB dialogue he told then Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) Chief of Staff General Eduardo Oban Jr. "to do away with the agenda of the meeting" and be frank with their counterparts. "We told them 'lets not talk about the wish list. We are not looking at Santa Claus. This is where we are coming from and we just want to know if you are onboard". According to Pama, they told the US delegates that if they will not be "onboard" with the Philippines, "we will have to do it alone, because, in the first place, its ours.""The question there is, "how will they look in the international community if you are not a reliable partner?" he emphasized.Pama further stressed that "whether we like it or not, the issues on sovereignty and the challenges will remain there.""That (West Philippine Sea) is ours," he said, "We just want to get out of (that) room (where the meeting took place) having the mutual feeling that we are both reliable partners."Subsequently, the US government agreed to the Philippine military's "wish list." Pama said, "because those are the things that we need for us to be a reliable partner in whatever challenges that will exist.""But of course, they have to go back to their usual party line that they don't have any position non territorial disputes," he pointed out. "But what is important there is our military to military relationship." Full Article Here Edited by Hong Nam, Dec 15 2012, 01:05 AM.
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| Santi Kampilan | Dec 15 2012, 01:09 AM Post #2 |
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That is planting the flag and making a stand! |
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| icefrog | Dec 15 2012, 01:15 AM Post #3 |
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Good for Pama. He's obviously fed up with roller-coaster ride. Let's not wait any longer. France, Italy and Korea are waiting in the wings too. We are obviously giving the Americans the first crack but why the delaying tactics and/or hesitation?? If they are unwilling then just say so and get out of the way. |
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| Hong Nam | Dec 15 2012, 01:19 AM Post #4 |
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"We told them 'lets not talk about the wish list. We are not looking at Santa Claus. This is where we are coming from and we just want to know if you are onboard'."
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| icefrog | Dec 15 2012, 01:31 AM Post #5 |
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They want to be neutral. We can respect that and quite understandable. However, the next time they ask for support like the Iraq-invasion or whatever non-UN sanctioned war they get in (and I'm 100% sure they will be involved in whatever war again directly or indirectly), they better not be surprised if we are not anymore under the coalition of the willing and we remain "neutral" or even vote "NO".
Edited by icefrog, Dec 15 2012, 01:32 AM.
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| Hong Nam | Dec 15 2012, 01:39 AM Post #6 |
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One thing that keeps crossing my mind is... What "wish list" has the US government agreed too?
Edited by Hong Nam, Dec 15 2012, 01:40 AM.
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| icefrog | Dec 15 2012, 02:05 AM Post #7 |
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We'll soon find out but I doubt they will publicize all of it. |
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| spearhead | Dec 15 2012, 03:08 AM Post #8 |
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DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer.
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If thr US cannot really go onboard then atleasr help with the wishlist that were presented by Pama. The US has no other choice but to help up in some ways and be reliable. |
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| keboiwa | Dec 15 2012, 09:06 AM Post #9 |
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Former U.S. Official: Don’t Mistake Support on South China Sea A former senior U.S. defense official viewed as a possible successor to Leon Panetta as defense secretary said the Philippines has recently mistaken U.S. renewed engagement in the region as an opportunity to more assertively pursue territorial claims against China. Michèle Flournoy, who served as undersecretary for defense policy until February 2012, said last month while the U.S. needed to send clear signals of support for its allies in the region, it also needed to ensure that support didn’t lead allies to act provocatively. Naming the Philippines specifically, she said there was a risk of Manila “mistaking U.S. support for an opportunity to be much more assertive in staking their claims ........................ further reading http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2012/12/14/former-u-s-official-philippines-mistaken-on-south-china-sea-support/ |
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| PinoyAko | Dec 15 2012, 10:02 AM Post #10 |
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Guys remember also during iraq war and GMA's term, she pulled-out our troops as exchanged for two captured Filipinos ready to beheaded. US may still remember this that's why they say we are neutral. |
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