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China clarifies maritime policy in disputed sea
Topic Started: Dec 6 2012, 10:47 AM (1,769 Views)
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China clarifies maritime policy in disputed sea
By Sara Susanne D. Fabunan | Posted on Dec. 06, 2012 at 12:01am | 1,283 views

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He added, however, that the new regulations apply to all of the hundreds of islands scattered across the sea, and their surrounding waters - including the disputed islands claimed by other countries including Vietnam and the Philippines.

The regulations are set to take effect on January 1 and this would apply to the sea around islands or its "baselines."

A baseline is the low-water line along the coast from which countries measure their territorial waters, as provided by the United Nation Convention on the Law of the Sea.

"But for islands whose territorial water baselines have not yet been announced, since there is no way to clearly define the width of their territorial sea, the aforementioned problem does not exist,"he said.


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http://manilastandardtoday.com/2012/12/06/china-clarifies-maritime-policy-in-disputed-sea/

it seems the clarification made gives more confusion. :wow:
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Dec 6 2012, 10:47 AM
China clarifies maritime policy in disputed sea
By Sara Susanne D. Fabunan | Posted on Dec. 06, 2012 at 12:01am | 1,283 views

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He added, however, that the new regulations apply to all of the hundreds of islands scattered across the sea, and their surrounding waters - including the disputed islands claimed by other countries including Vietnam and the Philippines.

The regulations are set to take effect on January 1 and this would apply to the sea around islands or its "baselines."

A baseline is the low-water line along the coast from which countries measure their territorial waters, as provided by the United Nation Convention on the Law of the Sea.

"But for islands whose territorial water baselines have not yet been announced, since there is no way to clearly define the width of their territorial sea, the aforementioned problem does not exist,"he said.


full article
http://manilastandardtoday.com/2012/12/06/china-clarifies-maritime-policy-in-disputed-sea/

it seems the clarification made gives more confusion. :wow:
Fool yourselves China! we're kindergarten kids that will believed your brilliant lies, What? every time something comes your from your lunatic thinker's mind you will implement in seconds because your powerful enough to be blocked by asean mosquitos? Then what's next, Your 100 island should be form into group or becomes 200...1000 islands. UN/UNCLOS/ITLOS should have clear decision on this and formally declared once and for all if China is wrong or right in getting the whole WPS/China sea so that countries involved knows their position and what should they do in case of.
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"The basis of all of these is the international law. Anything that they do or enact any law that violates the provisions under the UNCLOS is null and void and shall be deemed as harassment and an impediment to the freedom of navigation in the West Philippine Sea". This is what we ought to announce. Period. Theirs is just a bunch of mambo-jumbo just to create confusion and doubt. They don't know where they actually stand. We have to pin them down on this stupidity!
Edited by Santi Kampilan, Dec 6 2012, 04:25 PM.
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Now they are backtracking and emphasizing the "12 nautical miles from Hainan". They should have said it back then!

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/RestOfAsia/China-says-board-and-search-sea-rules-limited-to-Hainan-coast/Article1-983280.aspx

China says "board and search" sea rules limited to Hainan coast
Reuters
Beijing, December 31, 2012
First Published: 20:41 IST(31/12/2012)
Last Updated: 20:43 IST(31/12/2012)

Contentious new rules allowing Chinese police to board vessels deemed breaking the law off the southern island of Hainan are only valid within a narrow coastal zone, the government said on Monday, seeking to calm regional tensions. The regulations, which go into effect in the new year,
sparked widespread concern in Southeast Asia that China was taking a tougher line on the disputed South China Sea, where several nations are involved in a bitter territorial dispute.
Worries were compounded as Hainan is technically the province which has jurisdiction over China's extensive South China Seas claims, raising the possibility Chinese police could board ships anywhere in those waters.

But Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said the scope of Hainan's rules, announced by state media in November, represented no change from regulations passed in 1999 limiting enforcement to within 12 nautical miles of Hainan's coast.

"What I want to stress is that these local rules were formulated by the Hainan provincial government to strengthen border controls over the coast and maritime management," Hua told a daily news briefing.

"Their aim is to tackle crime at sea and maintain peace on the seas. There is no change to the scope of how these rules are used compared to the 1999 rules," she added, without elaborating.
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They intentionally made their original statement quite vague and showed adept diplomacy by doing so. The statement sounded forceful yet didn't expand clearly to what it really meant. Perhaps testing the Americans on how far they can get away with it. But I think they did not expect the Indians to react by threatening to send their ships to the West Philippine Sea. Perhaps India was one too many for them?

The brilliance here is that after letting it "hang" for almost a month they finally "clarified" the statement. - thereby backtracking without losing face.


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You're right Hong. That is what they're doing in the Senkaku's. Trying to see how far Japan is willing to tolerate them. We are beginning to see what they are doing with us also. Waiting for us to screw up and then using that against us to validate their next move. I think we will have to play with their ego and see how far they will lower their guard likewise.

I think so far we have played it cool. Let us see what their next move is with those big ships (PLAN destroyers turned CMS ships) now being sent to the WPS. I like Japan's response to their intrusion of Senkaku's, start ordering those Global Hawks. Maybe we can start with the Boeing Scan Eagles?
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You hit it right Santi, the chinese are just waiting for us to react by shooting their ships and air assets..then they will have justification to use their navy and air force..in the middle of the panatag stand off..chinese submarines and destroyers are on standby a few nautical miles from the area.waiting for us to start a shooting war...Thats why its important that diplomacy and rule of Law should be above our actions.. We stay on defensive..if they attack then we have the right to shoot back..if they ram at us we evade ..the world will know who are the real aggressors in the event china begin to twist the facts and say they are being bullied by us.. Which is really insane. Thats what several decades of communist brainwashing and propaganda can do to people..make zombies out of their tiny weenie brain
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I have a feeling that the Chinese (gov't) is lying again so that we can be caught off-guard.
If you don't want a modern and capable AFP, you might want to get the f*ck off the Philippines because you don't deserve to be a Filipino that's why!
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It's another deceit as part of Hainan... in the next coming days/weeks/months, they'll reason out that the whole WPS is their property that they have the (illegal) right to board or harrass any vessel entering the WPS.
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Always remember that 99.9% of their words are in the opposite of their actions. We should never be off guard, we need continuous monitoring and surveillance in our EEZ. They may say that we extending our patrol to WPS just to monitor all ships doing illegal, or we have right to protect our territory so we right to check and board any suspicious ships.. :lollol: Never trust them forever.
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