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| China angers neighbors with sea claims on new passports | |
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| Mckoyzzz | Nov 27 2012, 07:32 PM Post #11 |
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The actual map on new Chinese passport...
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| dewey | Nov 27 2012, 07:52 PM Post #12 |
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imo, tactic lg ng china to. if many of the countries stamp it anyway, anywhere in the world, they may claim that nobody's protesting or majority accept the fact that all the islands in the passports are theirs. they downplay it but they have evil agendas behind it. so i think asean nations should unite to protest this, esp the countries in dispute. they should call on every nation to call on china to remove it. its good as fact as the passports are official docs. ano kaya sabihin ng china if the countries in dispute likewise put those islands and some of their islands in their respective passports. do you think they wont make a fuss out of it? kaya huwag maniwala sa mga sabi sabi ng china na wala lang ito. mga manloloko yan!
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| gammy322 | Nov 27 2012, 07:57 PM Post #13 |
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Philippines must follow what Vietnam and India is doing to their new passports. Hope DFA will follow soon. Chickoms will never hear our 'note verbale' if we still accept them to our immigration. We have to follow what our two neighbors are doing. Actions speaks louder than words... |
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| AVBsupersonic | Nov 27 2012, 09:46 PM Post #14 |
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WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST ONE TO DO THIS JUST LIKE WHAT I'VE SAID.. dapat they are to follow our lead, but it seems there's hesitation on PNoys Govt. in a way... PNoy should show firmness on these issues considering what he did in ASEAN Cambodia summit. ACCEPTING them is the same as an ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of their absurd claims. |
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| AZKALS | Nov 28 2012, 08:00 AM Post #15 |
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U.S. to Raise Passport Map Issue with China Reuters – 2 hrs 45 mins ago http://news.yahoo.com/u-raise-passport-map-issue-china-205028834.html WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States will raise concerns with China over a new map in Chinese passports which details claims to disputed maritime territory, alarming some of its Southeast Asian neighbors, the State Department said on Tuesday. "We do have concerns about this map which is causing tension and anxiety between and among the states in the South China Sea," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland told a news briefing. "We do intend to raise this with the Chinese in terms of it not being helpful to the environment we all seek to resolve these issues." |
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| Mckoyzzz | Nov 28 2012, 01:53 PM Post #16 |
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How one little map created a big regional diplomatic issue in Asia November 28, 2012 10:30am BEIJING - Experts warn that China's apparent claims to other territories could have a long-term impact on relations with its neighbors. It took just one little map to create a regional diplomatic dispute. The map, in China's newly designed passport, claims ownership of the entire South China Sea - parts of which are also claimed by Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei and Malaysia - as well as disputed areas on the China-India border and two Taiwanese tourist destinations. The Philippines, Vietnam, India and Taiwan have all vehemently protested against the new microchip-equipped passport, which essentially forces neighbouring countries to validate China's position on contested regions. Vietnam and the Philippines lodged formal complaints last week with Chinese embassies in Hanoi and Manila, respectively. India's external affairs minister, Salman Khursid, called the map "unacceptable". "China has ignored the truth and sparked disputes," said a statement from Taiwan's mainland affairs council. Shi Yinhong, an international relations professor at Renmin University in Beijing, warned the row could have long-term consequences. "Especially in the East and South China Seas, both sides have taken a confrontational approach," said Shi. "This kind of situation will have a long-term impact on east Asian security and the relations between these countries." In addition to demarcating the potentially resource-rich, 3.5m sq km South China Sea as Chinese territory, the map also encompasses the Arunachal Pradesh and Aksai Chin regions on the border with India (the source of 15 failed negotiations between the two countries) and depictions of two popular tourist sites in Taiwan - Sun Moon Lake and Qingshui Cliff. Notably, it does not show the disputed Diaoyu Islands in the East China sea (called the Senkakus by Japan, which has repeatedly laid claim to the islands, prompting riots in Chinese cities last month). Some countries have found creative ways to address the issue. Vietnam has refused to stamp the new passport at border crossings, opting to staple visas to its pages instead. The Indian embassy in Beijing has been stamping the passports with another map depicting the two disputed Himalayan regions as India's territory. Bruce Jacobs, a professor of East Asian studies at Monash University in Australia, said the map underscored China's increasing boldness in laying claim to the disputed territories, adding that the country lacked institutions such as a free media that could keep its foreign policy decisions in check. China sent maritime surveillance ships to a string of disputed islands by the Philippines in the spring, leading to protests in Manila and high-level diplomatic complaints. "In some ways it's the balance of power theory: one nation gets too big, and other nations get together to oppose it," he said. "If anything I think it's counterproductive for the Chinese, but I don't think they have the feedback mechanisms to tell them that." Zha Daojiong, an international relations expert at Peking University, said the real reason why Chinese authorities decided to print the map on passports is difficult to discern. "We have different agencies, different individuals," he said. "Sometimes people assume it's all very well co-ordinated, but that may not always be the case." - Philippine News GMA Network |
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| Mckoyzzz | Nov 28 2012, 03:31 PM Post #17 |
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US to raise concerns over China passport map Associated Press Wednesday, November 28th, 2012 WASHINGTON -- The United States said Tuesday it will raise concerns with Beijing over a map printed in new Chinese passports that is causing "tension and anxiety" among claimant states in the disputed West Philippine Sea. The Philippines and Vietnam have objected that the map shows disputed maritime regions as belonging to China. India has also complained over the map's depiction of its northern border with China and retaliated by issuing Chinese citizens visas embossed with New Delhi's own maps. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland told a news briefing it was up to countries to decide what their passports look like and the US would still accept the Chinese one as a legal document. But she added: "That's a different matter than whether it's politically smart or helpful to be taking steps that antagonize countries." She said it was unhelpful for creating an environment for resolving the territorial disputes. Full Story Here |
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| seWer Rat | Nov 28 2012, 05:56 PM Post #18 |
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Breaking News: PH will no longer stamp visa on China's new passport. |
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| icefrog | Nov 28 2012, 06:16 PM Post #19 |
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PH refuses to stamp Chinese e-passports MANILA, Philippines – The Philippines will no longer stamp its visas on the new Chinese e-passports, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) announced Wednesday. “This action is being undertaken to avoid the Philippines being misconstrued as legitimizing the nine-dash line every time a Philippine visa is stamped on such Chinese e-passport,” it said in a statement. “Instead, the Philippines will stamp it on a separate visa application form,” it added. The Philippines lodged its protest against China’s recent move to include an image of its nine-dash claim to areas in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) in its new e-passports. In its statement, the DFA said that its refusal to stamp its visas on the new Chinese e-passports reinforces its stand that China’s claim over the disputed areas was “excessive,” and was “inconsistent with international law, specifically the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). http://globalnation.inquirer.net/58123/ph-refuses-to-stamp-chinese-e-passports ----- So, we are going to follow Vietnam's lead. Nice one Sec. Del Rosario. Let's see which Politicians will go against the directive of the DFA Sec. |
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| icefrog | Nov 28 2012, 06:24 PM Post #20 |
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Philippine Statement on the 9-Dash Line Map on the New Chinese e-Passport Further to the Philippine protest against the inclusion of the 9-dash line map in the Chinese e-passport which covers an area that is part of the Philippine territory and maritime domain, the Philippines will no longer stamp its visas on the Chinese e-passport. Instead, the Philippines will stamp it on a separate visa application form. This action is being undertaken to avoid the Philippines being misconstrued as legitimizing the 9-dash line every time a Philippine visa is stamped on such Chinese e-passport. Through this action, the Philippines reinforces its protest against China’s excessive claim over almost the entire South China Sea including the West Philippine Sea. The Philippines views said expansive 9-dash claim as inconsistent with international law, specifically UNCLOS. We are preparing for an early implementation of the aforementioned action. END http://www.dfa.gov.ph/index.php/newsroom/dfa-releases/6901-philippine-statement-on-the-9-dash-line-map-on-the-new-chinese-e-passport |
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