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| India, Russia line up mega defence deals | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 16 2012, 01:48 PM (730 Views) | |
| arnie | Oct 16 2012, 01:48 PM Post #1 |
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NEW DELHI: Despite aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov's delivery being further delayed to end-2013, and India chaffing at Russia's proclivity to jack up costs and overshoot deadlines, the two countries have set the stage for another flurry of bilateral defence projects over the next few months. The new contracts in pipeline, some of which may be inked during President Vladimir Putin's visit here next month, will again reassert Russia's position as India's largest arms supplier by far despite countries like the US, Israel and France also making deep inroads into the lucrative Indian market. India will spend close to $50 billion on them over the next two decades. The contracts range from an additional 42 new Sukhoi-30MKIs to add to the 230 of them already contracted, at an overall cost upwards of $12 billion, as well as another 71 Mi-17 V5 helicopters after the initial induction of 80 of these armed helicopters for $1.34 billion. Then, apart from the project to develop a "new-generation" hypersonic BrahMos cruise missile after the supersonic version being inducted in the Indian armed forces, India and Russia are poised to seal the full final design/R&D phase contract for development of the stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft. The R&D contract is pegged at $11 billion, with the two countries chipping in with $5.5 billion each. Each of this 5th Gen fighter - India hopes to induct 200 to 250 of them from 2022 onwards - will cost at least $100 million over that. India is spending another $2 billion to induct 45 Russian MiG-29K naval fighters to operate from the decks of Vikramaditya and the indigenous aircraft carrier, which too has been delayed at the Cochin Shipyard till at least 2018. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-10-11/india/34385872_1_5th-gen-ins-vikramaditya-stealth-fifth-generation-fighter-aircraft |
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| Ayoshi | Jan 17 2013, 07:32 PM Post #2 |
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Russia offers BMP-3 Infantry Combat Vehicles (ICV) to India defense-update.com The Indian Army has been using Russian made BMP-2 armored infantry combat vehicle (ICV) for many years, but since 1990s New Delhi is determined to build its own Future ICV (FICV). Two programs are in development – a weapon carrier (tank destroyer) called NAMICA and an AIFV technology demonstrator known as Abhai. However both programs are at limbo, facing a myriad of technical challenges and rejections from the services they are designed to serve.
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| Commander | Feb 18 2013, 06:58 PM Post #3 |
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If russia won't allow the philippines to buy their weapon systems like the ak-47/74 t-55 t-72 or zsu-23-4 or migs, maybe we can ask india to buy the russian equipment in surplus |
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| jvelarde | Mar 3 2013, 04:36 PM Post #4 |
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Commander, Since you are a relative newbie to this forum and still a young person going by your posts, let me tell you one thing that drives these purchases: money. If you have it, arms sellers will usually find a way to sell it to you especially Russia and China. Both of these giants have a rather nasty habit of ignoring a country's human rights records when it comes to selling weapons especially since the Cold War ended. Of course, there are limits to what money can do especially for countries in the West where they are restrained by their usually sensible laws. For example, no money in the world will make the US government allow Lockheed Martin to sell F-22's to anybody, not even close allies. Closer to home, the UK will not allow BAE to sell us Hawk jet trainers since we will almost certainly use these against our insurgents. Now going back to your topic. Why in the world will you want the AFP to buy AK-47's or AK-74's? We already have the M-16A1's although I will be the first to point out that our rifles are aging fast. If you are proposing that we replace the standard firearm of the AFP, it does not make sense to go for the AK-47. BTW, there are already threads discussing the pros and cons of the many rifles currently in the market. Besides, a firearm needs ammunition and lots of it. Armscor already produces bullets locally for the M-16's of our AFP and PNP. See their website below. Going Russian means we are going to give up, even temporarily, one of the few defense industries that we have! Armscor If we acquire the AK-47 or 74, we either have to buy ammo from overseas or Armscor has to buy new equipment to make the bullets. Neither option is easy or cheap. If we have to replace the venerable Armalite as the standard AFP firearm, then we would be much, much better off if our new tactical rifle used the NATO standard 5.56×45mm ammunition like the M4 Carbine of the US. That way, we have some level of compatibility with most of our allies including our most important one. As for the T-55 or T-72, why in the world would you want us to buy these obsolete tanks? They are totally useless in any encounter with the NPA or the MILF. Tanks are next the useless in the KIG since some of these islets are smaller than the tanks themselves! Believe me, Russia will be more than happy to take our hard-earned money and give us their surplus T-72's! As for the Sukhois or the MiG's, forget about it. Our PAF does not even have enough money to buy spares for our Hueys and other aircraft. Given its 2013 annual budget right now, there is no way our Air Force can afford to keep modern fighters flying even if Santa Claus gave us free MRF's. |
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