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| Philippine Navy in the market for 4 Anti-Submarine Warfare helicopters | |
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| spearhead | Aug 20 2012, 09:33 PM Post #21 |
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The JDW probably meant ASW choppers in the form of AW109 going to the PN (10 Fennecs for PAF). I heard the PN is determined to acquire some of this AW109-LUH (Light Utility Helicopters), while this variant is not totally designed for ASW, but it can have an overall effect for SAR, armed reconnaissance, and maritime surveillance patrol, etc., depending the availability of their conversion kits and which ones the PN are getting. New Zealand have ordered 5 of this variant in 2008 for 57Million Euro (PHP2.9B) with a dedicated simulator.
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| spearhead | Aug 20 2012, 10:00 PM Post #22 |
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DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer.
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The reported AW109 acquisition might not be included in the PN Desired Force Mix, but it's more like an interim/stop gap acquisition. So me thinks there are 2 naval chopper projects being mold by the PN. 1 is for a lightweight ASW/MPA, and another for a true 4 fulltime ASW choppers that is being proposed. The lightweight naval choppers will be assigned to PN's 2 Hamilton class ships, desirably might be also used to escort the marine troopers and other recon missions for both land and sea. Meanwhile the proposed 4 true and dedicated ASW chopers maybe used solely for WPS, and will be permanently assigned to 2 Maestrale frigates (2 choppers each). |
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| Hong Nam | Aug 20 2012, 10:53 PM Post #23 |
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Just what I feared. I am an active person so I prefer a "dipper" as I like to dip. Seriously.... A dipper is more effective than a pony. It's okay though because I think they will get one as soon as they are able.
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| fernandez705 | Aug 21 2012, 04:50 AM Post #24 |
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hopefully its part of the maestrale deal para a sweet deall for phil navy. |
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| spearhead | Aug 21 2012, 08:59 AM Post #25 |
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I just reviewed the PN Desired Force Mix, merong 8 dedicated ASW choppers, and 18 other light multirole choppers, baka yun yung AW109 na gusto nila, and this is only for the navy. |
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| dewey | Aug 21 2012, 11:29 AM Post #26 |
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very probable spear. im thinking that theyre gonna embark 1 asw and 1 multirole chopper for the maestrale. anyway, im still hopeful that the italians give or at least dnd buys 1 ab212 for each of the maestrale |
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| spearhead | Aug 21 2012, 01:33 PM Post #27 |
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If they will indeed assign 2 ASW choppers on each maestrales, 1 dedicated and one lightweight. Another possibility, me thinks they will assign atleast 1 or 2 AW109 on each MRVs. This way they could both support any maritime patrol/recon missions and ground support including both combat and natural disaster relief/humanitarian missions. |
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| fernandez705 | Aug 21 2012, 05:57 PM Post #28 |
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dedicated asw chopper: lynx family multipurpose chopper: aw109
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| boybim | Aug 22 2012, 08:22 AM Post #29 |
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i agree with some that perhaps, the A109 is the considered multirole LUH.Im not surprised the LUH was purchased first rather than the expensive ASUW heli. the A109 for the swedes and kiwis were used for ASUW training platforms for NAG that they have onboard their navy. AsUW such as the Lynx or much so any MH60 variant like the seahawk are complicathed helicopters that involves further operational trainigon lighter platforms. i see the A109 as a serious interim,albeit the PN multirole for the moment. the A109 will always have its place wheteher for the Maestrale as the 2nd heli or the SSV.it is custom to mix multirole helis and asuw helis on a single ship, much like the seahawks and S70's of the RTN. I am at favor IMHO on the A109 than the Fennec even the ASUW one. the malaysians has limited use on them aborad for their intended ASUW training and were relegated to multirle duties,albeit a very very small heli for multirole. teh A109 is bigger, carries heavier,has more range and are a lot faster than the Fennec.it may still be light, but just light enough and can be used for LOH duties on WPS like what the Malasysian army uses them for. i just wish theyd come with all the bangs for an all weather heli, FLIR or gyro equipped, winch at door, fully navalized platforms this will be good tandem if we get the super lynx or the seahawk, or the best ASUW there is, the MM60
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| romayu | Aug 22 2012, 04:44 PM Post #30 |
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i hope it would be the aw-101... it has a load capacity for troops and is currently being used by the royal navy for anti submarine duty... Edited by romayu, Aug 22 2012, 04:59 PM.
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