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| China 'willing to work with Indonesia' on maritime row | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 12 2012, 09:03 AM (231 Views) | |
| arvcab | Aug 12 2012, 09:03 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/world/08/10/12/china-willing-work-indonesia-maritime-row JAKARTA - China's foreign minister said Friday his country was willing to work with Indonesia as an informal mediator to "maintain peace and stability" in the South China Sea, amid tensions with neighbouring nations over rival claims to the area. "To maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea and in the region, China is willing to work with Indonesia," Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi said in Jakarta. He also said China was prepared to work "on the basis of consensus toward the eventual adoption of the code of conduct." Foreign ministers of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) failed to move ahead on the issue at a regional ministers' meeting in Phnom Penh in July. The dispute prevented ASEAN from producing a joint communique for the first time in the bloc's 45-year history. Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa has since pushed for implementation of the long-stalled code of conduct, designed to reduce tensions over fishing, shipping rights and oil and gas exploration in the sea. "The very difficult issue of the South China Sea requires countries in the region, ASEAN and China to work closely," Natalegawa said. "Having met the Chinese foreign minister, I'm assured that diplomacy is still on track." China claims sovereignty over almost all of the resource-rich sea, which is home to vital shipping lanes, but the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei have overlapping claims. |
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| steelDUST | Aug 13 2012, 09:55 PM Post #2 |
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"China is willing to work with Indonesia" is a statement I gave doubts about. Why only with Indonesia when China needs to instead deal directly with primary claimant nations. And "...on the basis of consensus..." is another tactic they need to adopt by way of bribing other nations and their representatives with "donations" and/or other perks. Those statements were obviously deceiving to somehow deviate the focus and intensity for our claim. Because if indeed China is serious about their claims, they won't have to resort to gunboat diplomacy, economic blackmail, court Indonesia and influence ASEAN protocol procedural process, instead bring the concern to the UN table and let the international law decide the validity of claims and not their own "historical" claim hoaxes. |
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| Hong Nam | Aug 13 2012, 10:47 PM Post #3 |
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Gentlemen there is a similar post at: http://s3.zetaboards.com/Defense_Philippines/single/?p=8043099&t=7581881 posted: Aug 11 2012, 04:56 PM by Mr. Ayoshi
Possible merge perhaps? 
Edited by Hong Nam, Aug 13 2012, 10:47 PM.
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| steelDUST | Aug 14 2012, 03:52 AM Post #4 |
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Sir: Merge the threads...? or ...Indonesia and China for SCS claims? Something like this: China to Indonesia: "Help us in our SCS claim and you can have Malaysia's, Brunei's and half of Philippines' claims." Sorry, just can't help thinking of possibilities that may happen... |
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| saver111 | Aug 14 2012, 10:50 PM Post #5 |
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Seems China is doing the divide and conquer scenario with ASEAN. They already did that with Cambodia. Hopefully Indonesia don't fall prey on this. Wasn't it Indonesia was the country that kick-out Communism in their country? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_killings_of_1965%E2%80%931966 |
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| saver111 | Aug 15 2012, 05:34 PM Post #6 |
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Seems I am not the only one who noticed  US warns against 'divide and conquer' in China sea Agence France Presse August 15, 2012 5:19am US warns against 'divide and conquer' in China sea WASHINGTON - The United States on Tuesday (Wednesday in PHL) warned against any attempt to "divide and conquer" in the tense South China Sea, and voiced hope that Beijing and Southeast Asian nations would reach an accord this year. Several Southeast Asian nations have accused China of aggravating friction in the South China Sea, but foreign ministers from the 10-nation ASEAN bloc failed at a meeting last month to reach an agreement on the way forward. China has favored individual talks with each nation. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland reiterated that the United States preferred a deal that included every country with claims in the South China Sea. "An effort to divide and conquer and end up with a competitive situation among the different claimants is not going to get where we need to go," Nuland told reporters, without explicitly naming China. "What we're most concerned about at the moment is that tensions are going up among the stakeholders. So we want to see a commitment to a deal that meets the needs of all," she said. The United States has been pushing for a code of conduct in the South China Sea that would set up formal channels to resolve friction and prevent miscalculations in the waters through which half of the world's cargo passes. But ASEAN, the Association for Southeast Asian Nations, is divided. The Philippines and Vietnam are strongly critical of China but Cambodia, the host of the July talks of foreign ministers, has close relations with Beijing. Attending the talks in Phnom Penh, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton encouraged China and ASEAN "to work together on a code of conduct and for all of them to commit as soon as they can -- to do that work and ideally to do it this year," Nuland said Tuesday. Nuland was reacting to a commentary by China's state-run news agency, Xinhua, which denied charges that Beijing was sowing division in Southeast Asia and hit back hard at "some Western countries." "What in fact is blocking unity within ASEAN and between its allies is the meddling of some Western countries that are betting on a divided Asia. They loathe to see Asia's incredible economic vitality while their economies are waning, as is their influence in the world," Xinhua said. President Barack Obama has vowed a renewed US focus on Asia. The United States has sought to reassure US-friendly Asian nations through its military presence and plans to shift the bulk of its naval fleet to Asia by 2020. — Agence France Presse http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/269754/news/world/us-warns-against-divide-and-conquer-in-china-sea |
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