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Topic Started: Aug 3 2007, 07:21 PM (538 Views)
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Aug 4 2007, 01:00 PM
Nah, dezza, vloo, , ivi boss, 0wn str nico all quit bcause of Ibug, it really wasnt wil.

Beside, how can you blame wil for pmp? Pmp tried to leave like 4 times before, it was only a matter of time before he quit.

You seem to have read wrong, and you cant seem to explain my other posts because im right am i?

The last quote u said was about Wil, i was actuaclly pointing out how he had connected well with them and did not cause them to leave which is a different story

And you cant point fingers to only Ibug, im not defending him at all, im just pointing out that weak minded ppl like that shudnt be here, any who it may seem wrong, but im trying to deal with ibug and i cant be take seriousness with him, which means Sir has to talk to him 1 on 1 about his problems and why he has to fix them

So get outta here, and do what im asking you to do, if you wont take me seirsouly, then there's just no hope at all in doing things slowly and the whole thing will implode because the clan will realize theyre not being helped or supported by thier own officials who are just "meh" type of guys

Idk about you, but i still enjoy this game, i enjoy run-ins, i enjoy clan pking, i enjoy the ppl i talk to, is this perhaps the end of the story for some of u guys? Is it time i create a sort of back up plan by promoting every1 who believes such things? Will it work? Will it inspire people? Probably not, but its just a matter of time before we take some drastic action
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suddenly your losing connection with members and they really cant go to any1 but me


You just said there that Wil lost connection with them while somehow you magically still have the connection. you make it sound like we arent doing anything but worsen the situation.

And I did read it, im just challenging stuff that I feel is wrong or misunderstood. Isnt that what officials are supposed to do other than just nod their head and pretend like theyre doing their jobs 100%? I know im not doing my job 100%, i admit it.
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I didn't lose control over members, you wanted to be the "main" leader so now you are. You have to deal with the resposibilities that come with being the main leader. Also the task you have now is no harder then the one I had when I was left with 43 members. This is an easy thing to get out of. Also this topic isn't working out too well, it's become more of a debate then a read and comprehend topic.

Also Rage, me and you have been arguing and debating over numerous of things. I would just like to point out one of the things I was right about.

-You wanted use to be on the defensive end and take things slow, well so you did that. I tried to rebell against your idea but you ignored me. I told you what could be the consequences if we don't become agressive again and I'm not going to lie, we arn't that great now. Taking things slow, cooling things down, being more conservative on PK trips made us fall and look like crap. Seriously, you were away from CP for too long to ignore people (specially me) and do what ever you wanted and not ask for help specially from me and officials. That's why you promoted officials like Omni that got defence like 2 days later. You need our help, our ideas, and our thoughts if your going to lead this clan successfully. You need to listen to us and not shove our thoughts aside like nothing. Also, quit being concieded.

You claim I never tell you anything and I never suggest anything, well look again.

Sir Pker Wil Posted: Jun 25 2007, 07:44 PM
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We have been on the defensive end for a long time now which I believe can lead to a clan's demise. I think we should start working our way to the agressive end or even become neutral as in pk more/ have more events that involve us fighting like even a interclan war. Staying on the defensive and just training won't really refine anything, we need to give people experience on organisation so everyone can be what we are looking for when we get striked into battle. We really can't afford to get rusty during summer vacation because then it makes it even harder to revive. We also REALLY REALLY need to work on everyone shutting the hell up and stop typing unecessary things while pking. We also need to work on people to stop disobeying the leader of the pk trip and start listening. You should also make the post for Saturday's event today or soon.

Also who cares about EOP lol, they are EOP. They mass recruit at PC and have an operator in their channel that teles (Ch33blet). EOP also lets people in their clan without even applying and they bring friends/ "honored" GUEST on pk trips. EOP is becoming another FL except I liked FL more. EOP is nothing but a bunch of hyprocrits that whine and complain on everything even if they win. They will lose people soon enough specially if/when they reach #1 because then everyone will be after them. So we could just sit back and watch the show I would assume


`Rage Posted: Jun 25 2007, 08:19 PM
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To those who disagree with me on this 1, i know what your getting at, but if we be "agressive" like if i were to say "pk trip right now@@@", guess how many people would come

If we keep "acting" agressive ,it wont get us far, we have to be smooth here and take things slowly

A chance to reflect ourselves and know what were going to come up against is important


This does not mean were not going to be pking at all, or warring at all, were still going to take things on a adjustable easy lvl..


Sir Pker Wil Posted: Jun 25 2007, 08:33 PM
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No, if you did it that way then it's improper and slow lol.

You wait for the peak time of the day and post the event on forums so people reading forums would know. I'm sure you didn't want to pk Thursday and Friday of last week but look how it turned out. Your misunderstanding my term of agression. You can still be agressive, smart, and organise at the same time. Not just saying "PK TRIP RIGHT NOW" when three people are on. Like at this very moment we have 50 people in IRC and a good amount of people on RS(Too bad they are busy pcing). We also have a good amount of people on forums. Making post like two hours/one hour ahead of the time you want to make a pk trip is being organised and agressive at the same time. Then if you don't get a good turnout you get someone who knows how to scout and scout worlds looking for small teams too dismantle (being smart). Why act agressive or defensive if you arn't going to be organised or smart about it.

Being agressive doesn't mean declaring wars on a clan for no reason and going in the wilderness acting like crazed monkeys attacking everyone at any given time. The way I like to see the meaning agression (for pure clans) is being in the wilderness doing fun events, pking, or whatever. As long as we are practicing and getting our teamwork better. Organisation can take us far but can only take us too a certain point. Being defensive can let opportunity and chances pass while being agressive (smart and organised also) you can grasp chances and opportunities. There's faults and pros to both conceptions I just don't believe being a layed back clan right now is good. I would like to get past 70 members because when a lot of people can't make it we don't hve many members to rely on (take the RO war for example: We had 65 members on the memberlist and 53 people signed up, 12 people couldn't make it and 11 people didnt show. 53+12= 65 (our member count). 53-11= 42 people who showed up to war). Having a low member count made us only have 120 opts which is a majory low for this clan after coming off of a 196 opt war with TLP. Sometimes you have to take matters in your own hands and grasp opportunities as they come. We can't let them opportunities pass us.


Now that I proved my point, QUIT IGNORING ME!!!!!

Also about the PMP thing, I didn't make him an official and I didn't like him, but I kept him in this clan as long as I could. He was planning on leaving CP before new years but I kept him here longer and worked with him as much as I could. He just got tired of the bull shit like the others I suppose.....

Also Rage, if you want to "bury the hatchet" now and have me and you quit debating over things, I will be happy with that because all we have been doing recently (For the past couple of months) is debating and arguing over things. It's getting quite tiring and old so this is my peace offering and probably the only time I will ever offer a peace offering in this game. We should just work together like we are suppose to do and think through things.
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Brandon|Jun-Hua
Aug 4 2007, 01:00 PM
Nah, dezza, vloo, , ivi boss, 0wn str nico all quit bcause of Ibug, it really wasnt wil.

Beside, how can you blame wil for pmp? Pmp tried to leave like 4 times before, it was only a matter of time before he quit.

You seem to have read wrong, and you cant seem to explain my other posts because im right am i?

The last quote u said was about Wil, i was actuaclly pointing out how he had connected well with them and did not cause them to leave which is a different story

And you cant point fingers to only Ibug, im not defending him at all, im just pointing out that weak minded ppl like that shudnt be here, any who it may seem wrong, but im trying to deal with ibug and i cant be take seriousness with him, which means Sir has to talk to him 1 on 1 about his problems and why he has to fix them

So get outta here, and do what im asking you to do, if you wont take me seirsouly, then there's just no hope at all in doing things slowly and the whole thing will implode because the clan will realize theyre not being helped or supported by thier own officials who are just "meh" type of guys

Idk about you, but i still enjoy this game, i enjoy run-ins, i enjoy clan pking, i enjoy the ppl i talk to, is this perhaps the end of the story for some of u guys? Is it time i create a sort of back up plan by promoting every1 who believes such things? Will it work? Will it inspire people? Probably not, but its just a matter of time before we take some drastic action

i don't see what the big deal is.
"Nah, dezza, vloo, , ivi boss, 0wn str nico all quit bcause of Ibug, it really wasnt wil"

me and dezza had a missunderstanding, he was getting defence anyway so it dident matter, we are actuly good friends now.

i don't know what vloos problem was i asked to talk to him one day and he cussed at me and quit...

boss was just in general being an asshole for no reason (siding with aqua about something that had to do with me)

nico left because he wanted to be with vlo. so m4n don't point the fucking finger at me your nowhere near as loyal as i am. you had a nice stable pure that was mostlikely not going to get hacked and you go sell it for a main account.. you don't have a stable enough account to even be in cp

you say im immature but you stalk me and go onto my girlfriends myspace and show everyone personal pictures that has nothing to do with you and mock me and make fun of me? that shows what kind of person you are.
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