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Topic Started: Oct 3 2010, 04:34 PM (57 Views)
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the ethics of eating meat? Is your conscience wholey reconciled with the idea?

Or is it something you don't put a lot of thought into whether by choice or disinterest. Just curious.
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Life needs to eat life to live. That's the way of the world. The strong survive, the weak perish. Its been like that forever and will go on being like that.

I think the real debate here is - are plants less alive than animals?

My answer to that is, nobody really knows. Nobody has ever been a plant, so nobody can tell really, only Kompa, who is/was a dandelion. Is a fish less alive than a chicken? Is a fly less alive than a venus fly trap? Is an apple conscious? Was that LB who registered on G.I. Jane's forum?

My conclusion - nature's cruel and disgusting - that's the standard that's been set. To live and be healthy, we must also be cruel and disgusting. So some poor chicken somewhere will have to lose his life, so I get to enjoy meal number 1 of 93,075*

* assuming I eat 3 meals a day and live to 85.
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Oct 3 2010, 03:34 PM
the ethics of eating meat? Is your conscience wholey reconciled with the idea?

Or is it something you don't put a lot of thought into whether by choice or disinterest. Just curious.

I have some vegan/vegetarian friends. Personally, I love eating meat. My conscience is clear.
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Oct 4 2010, 03:13 AM
Life needs to eat life to live. That's the way of the world. The strong survive, the weak perish. Its been like that forever and will go on being like that.

I think the real debate here is - are plants less alive than animals?

My answer to that is, nobody really knows. Nobody has ever been a plant, so nobody can tell really, only Kompa, who is/was a dandelion. Is a fish less alive than a chicken? Is a fly less alive than a venus fly trap? Is an apple conscious? Was that LB who registered on G.I. Jane's forum?

My conclusion - nature's cruel and disgusting - that's the standard that's been set. To live and be healthy, we must also be cruel and disgusting. So some poor chicken somewhere will have to lose his life, so I get to enjoy meal number 1 of 93,075*

* assuming I eat 3 meals a day and live to 85.


Well, from my perspective plants aren't less alive than animals but they don't have a nervous system so it's unlikely they experience pain or are aware of themselves in any large capacity. Animals do experience pain, they do get frightened and stressed, the conditions they are kept in whilst alive and the manner of their death is no less than barbaric and humanity should find it a source of absolute shame. It's the very height of hypocrisy that people show such casual indifference to the treatment of these animals but if a kitten or a puppy were to experience similar treatment they would be up in arms, they would find it absolutely enraging and disgusting. What is the difference between a pig and dog? There isn't any difference in worth intrinsically.

What makes it totally unjustifiable for me, is that we don't need to eat meat. We can obtain all the vitamins we need from a vegetarian diet. Sure I'm certain most people would not find that diet particularly appealing. But it would prevent the uneccessary stress and fear and pain that these animals go through. As social conscience evolves, I believe everyone in the future will be vegetarians.
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Oct 4 2010, 04:14 AM
HarryPotter
Oct 3 2010, 03:34 PM
the ethics of eating meat? Is your conscience wholey reconciled with the idea?

Or is it something you don't put a lot of thought into whether by choice or disinterest. Just curious.

I have some vegan/vegetarian friends. Personally, I love eating meat. My conscience is clear.

Because you love eating meat, it doesn't make it automatically justifiable.

I might love going around murdering people but that behaviour would be clearly unacceptable.

anyway /nauseating preaching. I'm not trying to offend anyone. It's all good in the hood.
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I have always eaten meat and fish,as long as the animals are farmed and butchered humanely ,in Fact-I have never met a vegetarian Roma
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Oct 3 2010, 06:33 PM
Oilersfan_in_ns
Oct 4 2010, 04:14 AM
HarryPotter
Oct 3 2010, 03:34 PM
the ethics of eating meat? Is your conscience wholey reconciled with the idea?

Or is it something you don't put a lot of thought into whether by choice or disinterest. Just curious.

I have some vegan/vegetarian friends. Personally, I love eating meat. My conscience is clear.

Because you love eating meat, it doesn't make it automatically justifiable.

I might love going around murdering people but that behaviour would be clearly unacceptable.

anyway /nauseating preaching. I'm not trying to offend anyone. It's all good in the hood.

It's okay, HarryPotter. I wasn't using the fact that I love eating meat to justify anything.

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