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| The shooting in Connecticut | |
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| Deleted User | Dec 15 2012, 12:31 AM Post #1 |
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I can't even begin to imagine what those parents went through when they heard the news. It's too horrible. All those poor children.
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 01:29 AM Post #2 |
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This is extremely saddening. I've not really been able to read much about it in the news just because it is just too upsetting. I wonder how many more of these tragedies have to occur before a serious debate can be started in a America about sensible gun control measures. The media also needs to start being a lot more responsible in regards to these types of incidence.
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 01:30 AM Post #3 |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 02:23 AM Post #4 |
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“You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here’s why. It’s because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed People who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he’ll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody. CNN’s article says that if the body count “holds up”, this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer’s face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer’s identity? None that I’ve seen yet. Because they don’t sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you’ve just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next. You can help by forgetting you ever read this man’s name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news.” -Morgan Freeman |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 11:02 AM Post #5 |
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Precisely. Thanks for sharing that. They basically turn the killer into some kind of weird celebrity figure, which is disgusting and irresponsible. If you want fame and notoriety and are a bit psychotic all you need to do is shoot a bunch of school children and hey presto! Interviewing the children was also just vile and completely predatory. I think the media really does encourage this type of incident. But there also needs to be a discussion on gun control (although, blatantly not going to happen/change anything in any significant way because Americans are too stubborn on the issue). But I know no one is going to agree with me here, so I'll be quiet! |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 12:15 PM Post #6 |
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I actually agree with you both. Even the last part Blue. Now don't get me wrong I don't think banning guns or anything like that is the answer, *but* perhaps some things do need to change. I'm just not familiar enough with American gun legislation to know what. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 03:20 PM Post #7 |
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I don't think getting rid of all guns will do anything. Sick people will still figure out how to do sick things. Drive a car into a school, or drive it onto the playground when kids are there. Hijack a school bus full of kids and drive it off a bridge. The media really needs to stop sensationalizing everything and we need to get these people help before it ever happens. ESPECIALLY at this point. I can see the thought process of a sick person now, "Soo... they outlawed guns and they think that'll stop those types of issues? Just wait till they see I killed more people without guns! I'll be way more infamous than any of those others!!!" |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 04:02 PM Post #8 |
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I can see where you're coming from. I personally think it would be difficult to take away something that America as a nation --> wrongly <-- or rightly feels so entitled to. I don't see the complete banning of guns as a political reality for America (unfortunately). Something needs to be done though. There needs to be a greater restriction and the approach to guns needs to be less casual. Children should not be allowed to go to shooting ranges, bullets should not be sold in supermarkets etc. I do think American politicians need to be more courageous in talking about this issue. And American people as a whole really. I've seen Americans around the internet get so defensive about it, in particular they've been offended by people talking about gun control in regards to this case. They see it as disrespectful and politicising a tragedy. But there needs to be discussion if we want to prevent this kind of thing from happening. Sadly though this will probably be mostly forgotten about in a few weeks time and nothing will change, all because politicians are more concerned about winning a popularity contest than doing what they think is right. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 05:04 PM Post #9 |
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You're right, it's a hot button topic for a few weeks then it disappears. But I also think we have more important issues to address overall. These issues just slowly escalate rather than draw huge attention for a blip then fade into the background. Big example, obesity. I think I read somewhere 300,000 obesity related deaths in the US every year. Yesterday thousands of parents took their overweight children to a fast food restaurant and loaded them up on horrible food. And this is the parent, not some deranged lunatic. Don't get me wrong, killing 20 children is a hideous act. Is it worse than dooming millions of children to miserable lives as an obese adult because parents can't be bothered to make sure their children know how to eat healthy? I don't know the answer to that. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 05:09 PM Post #10 |
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Issiah Shoel. And I didnt google it. And it happened because America is a sick socieity. but I dont care. The earths drama box,price you have to pay (oh yes!) for being the (cough,cough) greatest nation in the world! LOL. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 05:51 PM Post #11 |
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I agree with Nate, America is a sick society and sick societies produce monstrosities! I blame the masters, there is such total and unrelenting pressure to succeed to always be climbing the greasy pole of success while kicking the person below you in the face and avoiding the kicks from the person above. In such a 24/7 cut-throat "Live-and-die by the market" society, is it any wonder that some people are driven so crazy by pressure and profound self-loathing that spectacular outrages are the only "cure?" * It was America that said to the world "He who dies with the most toys wins", and if you are not getting and spending then you are a bus-taking loser, who deserves every single thing that happens to them. I just wish these people would shoot politicians, bankers, corporate types and their goons, instead of children. "Too many useless things produce too many useless people." - Karl Marx * "The more there is of the 'I' the less there is of God." |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 05:54 PM Post #12 |
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People slowing killing their children with fast food makes my blood boil. If you aren't prepared to take proper care of a child then you have no business reproducing. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 06:10 PM Post #13 |
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I agree with Nate, America is a sick society and sick societies produce monstrosities! I blame the masters, there is such total and unrelenting pressure to succeed to always be climbing the greasy pole of success while kicking the person below you in the face and avoiding the kicks from the person above. In such a 24/7 cut-throat "Live-and-die by the market" society, is it any wonder that some people are driven so crazy by pressure and profound self-loathing that spectacular outrages are the only "cure?" * It was America that said to the world "He who dies with the most toys wins", and if you are not getting and spending then you are a bus-taking loser, who deserves every single thing that happens to them. I just wish these people would shoot politicians, bankers, corporate types and their goons, instead of children. "Too many useless things produce too many useless people." - Karl Marx * "The more there is of the 'I' the less there is of God." |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 06:14 PM Post #14 |
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I'm sure this 20 year old kid who still lived with his mom was sent over the edge because he lost millions in the market. Hate capitalism, or anyone who has a job for that matter, all you want, but it doesn't have any relevance to the conversation we're having here so perhaps take it to another thread. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2012, 06:22 PM Post #15 |
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Jefe you disappoint me. My post wasn't about investors losing money. Everyone in the Western world, and especially in America is completely dominated by market forces. That boy probably felt that at 20 after years of suffering from 24/7 messages from a market saturated society his life was going nowhere and the only thing he could look forward to was decades more of the same. He shouldn't have shot those children that was completely wrong! He should have gone to the business district and ... |
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