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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 24 2012, 05:34 PM (150 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Aug 24 2012, 05:34 PM Post #1 |
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They really need to introduce some gun control, dudes. It's like. A bit crazy. Amirite? |
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| Deleted User | Aug 24 2012, 05:45 PM Post #2 |
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I used to be very against guns but I have changed my mind. Governments need to fear their citizens it prevents them becoming hubristic and tyrannical. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 24 2012, 05:46 PM Post #3 |
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I think it's a difficult issue. People being allowed to own guns is also another way to prevent the crime. For example burglars will think twice before trying to break into your home if they know you have a gun at the reach of your hand. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 24 2012, 06:29 PM Post #4 |
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Eeeeh. I don't think ownership of guns should or really would be effective in curtailing governments. And I know there are some situations in which guns can save lives but either way a gun is there, always, to kill lives. It is a destructive weapon with the sole purpose of killing. There should not be such free access to them. It's just a bit mad. |
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| Supreme Adjudicator Admin | Aug 24 2012, 06:57 PM Post #5 |
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Some forms of gun control are necessary I believe but ultimately, law-abiding citizens should be able to own most types of guns in my opinion. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 24 2012, 07:52 PM Post #6 |
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Yeah but why should they? Just because they/you believe that it's their right? It's not a good enough reason. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 24 2012, 08:03 PM Post #7 |
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I thought that Blu was referring to the Batman massacre but think there has been some other shooting? |
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| Deleted User | Aug 24 2012, 08:33 PM Post #8 |
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Yeah by the looks of it. I don't generally like to read those kinds of stories. But it was front page on the news website I was looking at. I think it was something like an employee who had been fired shot and killed his boss and someone else and injured a further 9 people. It was somewhere near the empire state building I believe. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 24 2012, 10:24 PM Post #9 |
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If you outlaw guns only outlaws will carry guns. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 25 2012, 01:01 AM Post #10 |
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If you outlaw guns then less outlaws would own guns than they do now. I don't see how that's a bad thing? If guns were essentially illegal. There would be a decrease in manufacture and supply. And yeah I'm sure they would be available to buy from the black market. But guns would be nowhere near as readily available. With these killing sprees that have happened in the US how many of these attacks have been stopped by an innocent person being shot at that just so happens to have a gun on them on their trip to the mall, the cinema or school. Not very many. Not that I've heard of. Yes the defence aspect of a gun is the most credible argument for their legality but it's not the only means of defending yourself. I just don't think gun ownership is justifiable anymore. It would be lovely for us all to have as much individual liberty as possible and be able to do and own what we please. Unfortunately there are some real whack jobs around. Is it really such a sacrifice to give up a weapon which has the sole purpose of killing, which you will most likely never have to use if it means that these whack jobs are less likely to execute a bunch of random innocent people. I'm slightly delirious right now. So yeah. I'm right though. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 25 2012, 02:08 AM Post #11 |
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It's not just the instances where someone who has a gun and defends themself though. There's also the instances where crimes didn't happen because the criminal wasn't sure if the intended victim had a gun, so rather than risk it, they don't even make the attempt. Switzerland has some of the world's most liberal gun ownership laws and yet some of the lowest violent crime numbers involving guns. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 25 2012, 02:13 AM Post #12 |
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That is true about Swiss gun ownership Blu. I saw a documentary I think on YT. Did you know that in the Swiss army soldiers when they leave the army are allowed to keep their rifle and take it home with them?! |
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| Deleted User | Aug 25 2012, 08:45 AM Post #13 |
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If all police officers were allowed to carry guns in this country Derrick Bird would have been stopped before he managed to kill all of those people. Also PC Ian Dibell would probably still be alive. The number of armed response officers forces have at their disposal is ridiculous. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 25 2012, 04:03 PM Post #14 |
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Yeah I've heard Switzerland being used as a case for liberal gun laws. But they have some weird military system where I think most males are made to do some kind of military service at some point or something from what I understand and like LB says members of the Swiss army actually have to take their guns home with them. They are taught to respect guns from a young age and that these guns are only to be used in defence of their country. They also have a better social environment in Switzerland. It's great that liberal gun laws work for the people of Switzerland, but it clearly isn't working for America very well. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 25 2012, 05:43 PM Post #15 |
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That's a good conclusion to come to because one crazy dude in a country of 400 million people got a gun and killed his ex-boss. |
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