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Revisions and complaints round 1: Shedoom, GotoArbys and Shaado
Topic Started: Mar 19 2011, 08:51 AM (183 Views)
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Since they were added so suddenly, I might as well open this topic. Plus GoToArby's is obviously really powerful. Anyway, complain away. Though I'd prefer complaints to come from people who actually battle. If someone already has a similar complaint just say you agree.
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<Chispy>I'm going to guess giving it a three-move combo of: Dark Void / Mean Look / Nightmare might be too good?
<captaiN>nobody uses nightmare
<Chispy>With impenetrable defenses and trapping moves they might.
<Chispy>(Plus Nightmare is flavour anyway)
<captaiN>we can try it
<captaiN>I was gonna add a recovery move cause it's obvious even though it isn't flavorful
<Chispy>Dream Eater and Moonlight seem pro.
<captaiN>hey moonlight
<captaiN>not as good as a regular recovery move
<captaiN>but it'd be an improvement
<Chispy>Actually it's better in Streetmons
<Chispy>Groudon
<captaiN>gonna give it fire blast
<captaiN>it'll combo with groudon really well
<captaiN>ok that's one person for all those moves
<captaiN>and you put in moonlight
<captaiN>so I like it
<Chispy>Should it get
<Chispy>Clear Smog
<captaiN>what does that do
<captaiN>haze?
<Chispy>Base 30 Spec Poison that Hazes the target
<captaiN>btw chispy do you agree with axaj that gotoarbys should have its base HP lowered to 30?
<Chispy>It'd be worth testing.
<Chispy>For reference, though, Deoxys has 50
<Chispy>So bear that in mind
<captaiN>I don't think gotoarbys is as strong as shedoom
<captaiN>I don't think ANYTHING is
<captaiN>it's really strong on paper once you figure out that the conversion set works
<captaiN>brb
<Chispy>I think Reshiram would be a solid counter to Shedoom.
<Chispy>TurboBlaze Blue Flame means it doesn't give a shit about Wonder Guard and OHKOs from its weak defense.
<Chispy>Steelix also
<captaiN>it's true
<captaiN>steelix because of toxic
<captaiN>I'd say
<captaiN>shedoom counter = toxic user
<Chispy>Steelix can come in on the Electric type
<captaiN>for now that works
<Chispy>Put up a Sub
<captaiN>I am gonna copypasta what you said onto the forums
<captaiN>has anyone used the nonsmogon one
<captaiN>cause got
<captaiN>*god
<captaiN>does smogon lag
<Chispy>It had like a week of inactivity so I stopped stalking it.
<captaiN>yeah I don't think anyone cares which is sad cause smogon is biting us hard
<captaiN>I'm particularly lazy so I use smogon but if a ton of people hopped over to the other forum it would not be a bad thing
<captaiN>actually chispy
<captaiN>shedoom has higher BSR than arceus cause of its huge defenses
<captaiN>cause nobody thought it's main set would be conversion
<captaiN>but nobody's been using a statup with conversion
<captaiN>so it's essentially nerfed that way

shaado and axaj:
(17:18:50) +!0[A]cAptain: any other moves I should give it?
(17:19:35) Axaj: hmm
(17:19:39) +!0[A]cAptain: brb
(17:19:51) Axaj: I'd say give it mimic glitch, but that's not going to happen
(17:19:53) Axaj: :p
(17:20:45) +!0[A]cAptain: well you could convince everyone
(17:20:49) +!0[A]cAptain: the reason you use this pokemon
(17:20:56) +!0[A]cAptain: is attack with bulk + color change
(17:21:03) Axaj: yeah
(17:21:06) +!0[A]cAptain: one big tank/wall
(17:21:09) Axaj: thing is though
(17:21:23) +!0[A]cAptain: not as tough as the new pokemon
(17:21:25) Axaj: color change is much better when people actually use choice items
(17:21:32) Axaj: nobody uses choice items
(17:21:39) +!0[A]cAptain: its advantage is attacking power and color change
(17:21:47) +!0[A]cAptain: it's still annoying
(17:21:48) +!0[A]cAptain: like
(17:21:52) +!0[A]cAptain: switch into normal attack
(17:21:59) +!0[A]cAptain: now ursaring can't se me with sacred fire
(17:22:06) +!0[A]cAptain: switch into EQ
(17:22:18) Axaj: yeah
(17:22:21) +!0[A]cAptain: oh nvm ground doesn't resist ground
(17:22:25) Axaj: :p
(17:22:27) +!0[A]cAptain: some types resist themselves
(17:22:33) +!0[A]cAptain: that's where color change works
(17:22:35) Axaj: yeah, a lot do
(17:22:50) +!0[A]cAptain: as long as they can't hit their own attacking type SE
(17:23:00) +!0[A]cAptain: water + ice doesn't
(17:23:03) +!0[A]cAptain: normal + fire doesn't
(17:23:09) +!0[A]cAptain: fire + ground DOES
(17:23:26) +!0[A]cAptain: what other types do we use?
(17:23:29) Axaj: ghost
(17:23:31) Axaj: is a problem
(17:23:35) +!0[A]cAptain: ghost + fight doesn't
(17:23:38) Axaj: uh
(17:23:40) +!0[A]cAptain: fight doesn't SE ghost
(17:23:42) Axaj: ghost is SE against ghost
(17:23:48) +!0[A]cAptain: oh you're right
(17:23:53) +!0[A]cAptain: fucking ghost
(17:23:53) Axaj: same with dragon
(17:24:01) +!0[A]cAptain: dragon isn't THAT good
(17:24:03) +!0[A]cAptain: because
(17:24:05) +!0[A]cAptain: LET'S SPAM ES INSTEAD
(17:24:12) +!0[A]cAptain: ES > outrage
(17:24:15) Axaj: lol
(17:24:17) +!0[A]cAptain: until ghosts become too dominant
(17:24:24) +!0[A]cAptain: then it reverses
(17:24:29) Axaj: three of our four customs are ghost type
(17:24:39) +!0[A]cAptain: I AM SHEDOOM
(17:24:41) +!0[A]cAptain: I BLOCK YOUR OUTRAGE
(17:24:44) +!0[A]cAptain: FUCK OUTRAGE
(17:24:47) Axaj: and the other has wonder guard
(17:25:22) Axaj: yeah, this metagame is incredibly tactical
(17:25:31) Axaj: if you try to spam a move you WILL be swept
(17:26:32) +!0[A]cAptain: I guess that's a good thing
(17:26:36) Axaj changed teams.
(17:26:39) +!0[A]cAptain: in 4th gen standard outrage was really good
(17:26:41) Axaj: yeah
(17:26:46) +!0[A]cAptain: dragons are still powerful in fifth gen too
(17:27:08) Axaj: there are more steel types in gen V though
(17:27:24) Battle between !0[A]cAptain and Axaj started.
(17:32:02) Axaj forfeited against !0[A]cAptain.
(17:32:05) Axaj: lol
(17:32:07) +!0[A]cAptain: yeah
(17:32:10) +!0[A]cAptain: I'd say gardead is strong
(17:32:45) Axaj: quite
(17:32:53) Axaj: it's a ridiculous wall
(17:33:04) Axaj: hmm
(17:33:07) Axaj: heart swap
(17:33:09) +!0[A]cAptain: it's one hell of a tank
(17:33:09) Axaj: can it work
(17:33:17) +!0[A]cAptain: no way is shaado broken in comparison
(17:33:17) +!0[A]cAptain: yeah
(17:33:23) +!0[A]cAptain: heart swap is really good
(17:33:25) Axaj: I think
(17:33:42) Axaj: that we should not nerf these pokemon unless absolutely necessary
(17:33:52) Axaj: instead, we should make stronger pokemon
(17:33:55) Axaj: or buff the others
(17:34:39) +!0[A]cAptain: I think we should nerf the pokemon when enough people agree
(17:34:45) +!0[A]cAptain: what we WANT to do though
(17:34:55) +!0[A]cAptain: is compete with teh strong pokemon in streetmon
(17:35:36) +!0[A]cAptain: honestly if we have a nonerfing attitude, I'd have to make strict or stricter guidelines
(17:35:40) +!0[A]cAptain: and I don't want to do that
(17:37:32) +!0[A]cAptain: also chispy said it's

Edited by Captain, Mar 21 2011, 10:39 PM.
09:39 umbreon_dan is this your weird furry porn again
09:39 Rising_Dusk Yes, it is.

petrie911today I lost the battle with my tax return forms
Rising_Dusk I'm saying you said what I said you said you said was said by you.
I know people out there are wondering...so here goes capefeather:
capefeatherwhat was the point of that video
captaiNnone, which was exactly why I link it
captaiNsame reason I post furry porn, not that, furry porn isn't awesome.
"If Mr. Harper gets more seats than us, he'll try to form government. If I get more seats, it's me who will try to form government,"

[2011-04-13 21:40:51] <u> in MY buttcheeks
[2011-04-13 21:40:51] <reachzero> Pianos are like guns
[2011-04-13 21:40:55] <v> stole my favorite instrument
[2011-04-13 21:40:56] <capefeather> hahaha
[2011-04-13 21:40:56] <reachzero> you're cool if you have one
[2011-04-13 21:41:01] <reachzero> but you don't always have one

Kannon: he was mad because Plus and Captain did the impossible and stalled in LC 

HybridHerp: This is asia baby, copyright, break the law yeah right!! You can buy women here if you got the cash.

Magmortified: Cheese is relative, according to Einstein. 
Magmortified: Or maybe it was time that was relative. But I don't think there's a big difference. 

Shigen: I hate floors. they're like walls, but too lazy too stand 

lJLeeRSX: im a big can of yours

I asked my science teacher what the secret to a good marriage was once. 
Her answer: "Butter. Lots of it." 

Captain: So what do we all think of Blitz?
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Captain: he who controls the battlefield controls what?  
dex: the evil. 

Light: Scientific evidence proves that master chief is a panda

Captain: "watching cute movies is like sex except without the sex"

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