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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 22 2009, 01:53 PM (136 Views) | |
| Epsilon Andromedae | Jun 22 2009, 01:53 PM Post #1 |
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Hammys idea: Evil detracts from good, and vice versa EA's idea: Evil pulls in the opposite direction of good, as a separate entity, and vice versa thoughts? |
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| Teh Fluffy | Jun 22 2009, 02:04 PM Post #2 |
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I am thinking. I can see that my idea is not the best. And probably has flaws But I do not really see the difference from yours to mine. The numbers 2 and -1 are separate entities in the first dimensional scale of good-evil. 2 being good, as it is a positive being, and -1 evil, as it is a negative being. When these two combine, -1, evil, as a separate entity tries to pull 2, good, down. Subtract and you get positive 1. Therefore, it is still good, but it has been pulled farther in the direction of Evil. Does that go with my point in the chat? I know I didn't word it exactly like that, but I do understand/believe they are separate entities... Or are they? (Up for debate in this thread, I have no current decision, though.) |
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| Vanet | Jun 22 2009, 02:07 PM Post #3 |
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Vanet's Idea: Good and Evil dont exist as they are subjective. You may think that Santa Clause is evil, whereas I do not. It is all a matter of opinion. |
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| Teh Fluffy | Jun 22 2009, 02:17 PM Post #4 |
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Very VERY true. In this case, we suppose we are on equal terms with what we define as evil and what we define as good. |
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| Epsilon Andromedae | Jun 22 2009, 02:57 PM Post #5 |
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Well, i think it goes without saying that good and evil are subjective. In the classic sense, however, you know what i mean. The way i'm envisioning what you're talking about, ham, is...well, example. Point. Point rests at Zero. If evil "Subtracts" then that puts the point at -1. if Good adds, then that puts the point at 1. i think we can agree that its not as simple as that, but supposing it is. I prefer the separate entities thing because it takes into account some variables. foinstance, there are other points that add to the strength of both good and evil, and how hard they pull. also, a pull is not as definite as a subtraction, because pulling on something isn't guranteed results. its up to the Point, and depends on the other forces involved. does that make sense? back to the Democrat v. Republican thing, there are plenty of democrats and republicans, and if a point becomes a republican, it doesn't mean there are less democrats, just that theres more republicans. |
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| Kamoneschia | Jun 23 2009, 01:08 AM Post #6 |
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Now... evil and good are entirely an opinion. You see cartoon villains say "Evil will rule the world!" Now, in real life they wouldn't say that. For instance, I am going to take Star Wars as an example, , The side the Emperor and all the clones on is considered the dark and evil side by the jedi. Throughout the story, we think of them as evil. But from the stormtroopers or Darth Vader's point of view, they would think that they were on the good side and doing the right thing for the galaxy.The only "kinda" way to truly determine good verses evil is to poll a large group of anonymous, neutral bystanders on whether something is evil or good, then see who got more votes, but evil verses good may be something completely different based on views of certain cultures.. |
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| Darkle | Jan 4 2010, 04:23 PM Post #7 |
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Good and evil, much like time and constellations, are entirely arbitrary and have only what meaning we give them. Therefore, they don't really have any bearing on anything, rendering any such debates regarding them purely theoretical. However, I would be more inclined to seem them as two parts of a single thing. To continue on with Star Wars, the Empire and the Jedi are both humans. But two different sides of humanity. |
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, The side the Emperor and all the clones on is considered the dark and evil side by the jedi. Throughout the story, we think of them as evil. But from the stormtroopers or Darth Vader's point of view, they would think that they were on the good side and doing the right thing for the galaxy.
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