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| The Third Great War; Or, Caprecia's/Oracia's WWII | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 21 2014, 03:12 PM (1,319 Views) | |
| Lines | Jan 21 2014, 03:12 PM Post #1 |
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Yeah...word on the street is, you guys want Oracia/Caprecia to be more like Earth, in that there's such a thing as international law and a freaken world court and humans right, and all that fun progressive humanitarian junk. I'm not particularly opposed to it--as it might come across based on some movements elsewhere--but I would like for it to happen realistically. See, it took WWII to get RL nation-states to get their shit straight and stop being so...not-cooperative-y. This is why I'm opposed to randomly spawning things like an international court or a UN-esque: because it looks like you guys want to do it to do it (and maybe grab some prestige on the side), rather than doing it for RP...or as a consequence of RP. That's one of the things I've been waiting on: a Nazi Germany to come around and be a big enough bad boy it changes the political spectrum and make us go "you know, it's not so bad an idea to have a greater organization to prevent this shit." Believe it or not, I tried to do it early in Caprecia 2.0 with the East Urocan War (LAN+SAI v. modern MKE, back when it was Eridor). Thing is, Erid vanished on us--leaving the thing a flop and we just kind of skipped forward a little. The attempts to start a UN-esque failed, so I kind of just shoved King Erick IV trying to massacre Eridor civilians under the carpet. But now there's grumbling again for a world court, and Ikarius did that Nysan anti-genocide organization thing, but...stuff and things. (Super sekreet: I may or may not have intended to slide the Commonwealth into a UN-esque role.)) So I'm thinking of just flipping the table, picking up some NPCs, and going Hitler on your asses. Why an NPC rather than Lanlania? Because WHYARENTYOUHITLERING,GODDAMMIT? Exactly. Lines fixes tie. So, yeah...who(mainly Caprecians)'s interested in a WWII-esque thing that spawns a UN-ripoff and all that fun humanitarian junk? Originally, I was considering having it set in the past--250s, but figure that doing it now is better, so we don't have the awkwardness of conflicting shizz. It'd likely be centered in Zaroca, with our big bad being Magilan (I may beef it up for the purposes of this RP, including granting it some more land). An aggressive right-winger could get elected into office (because reasons), who then proceeds to invade things. Maybe democratic Tyras or Nent's weird Asian state? Or NPCs--actually, why not all of the above? This country could have an ally in Estovza, and possibly also an Iryiiad state, just for the extra RP. Most RP would come from beating the Magilani (and its allies!) into the dirt. I may add or remove parties (victims in Galdresia and Syntreal, particularly) depending on interest. I'd like for it to include most of Caprecia's parties, because otherwise it's kinda pointless. What's liable to be the aftermath? I'll likely oppose--both ICly and OOCly--land concessions because ITSNOTALLABOUTTHEFRAKKINGLANDGODDAMMIT. Considering the point is to spawn a UN and world court and that kinda stuff, those would also come about. I'll probably headquarter them in NPCs (Syntara City and Nakhodka respectively, I'm thinking), because GODDAMMITITSNOTALLABOUTONESOWNCOUNTRY. Oh, and I guess there'd be debt. That's kind of a side effort of war. Lines, this is a horrible idea! Expand on why and maybe we can fix it. Lines, this interferes in my nation's agenda! Well, that's how the world works. It doesn't wait for you to put your pants on. Lines, I don't want to RP for this! Why can't we just have the organization! Because it should have a catalyst, goddammit. Lines! You're dumb and I hate you! Whatever. Lines! ...wait, what are you asking us here, exactly? "What's your take on actually having a RP to spawn a UN and shizz, as opposed to just doing it because?" Oh...okay. Wait, how's Nysa fit into this? Donno. Oh...okay. How's the DU fit into this? Might be a party to the war, though I think the Commonwealth might be some of the first responders. Oh...okay. And the TA? They might try to weasel their way, I guess. Donno either. We'll have to see in RP. Edited by Lines, Jan 21 2014, 03:14 PM.
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| Zanaro | Jan 21 2014, 05:09 PM Post #16 |
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You know, that's almost a legitimate reason to go to war. Totally going to use that! |
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| Anakinexi | Jan 21 2014, 05:12 PM Post #17 |
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I see there being a 99.99% chance that the United States isn't going to get involved in a world war. For several reasons: 1. Angleterre is not in any alliances or player unions. 2. Angleterre has no enemies anywhere in the world. 3. There is little general interest for military conflict, especially after my war with Aiuria is finalized. 4. Angleterre can't afford it. I could see the U.S. trying to take advantage economically, and possibly diplomatically if things drag out too long, but I wouldn't be sure. But I can pretty much rule out military involvement. |
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| Osafune | Jan 21 2014, 05:15 PM Post #18 |
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I propose that NPC's be spawned where ever they're needed to force the Dec-types into the war. Come on, I sit right on the border with Magilan. Look at how totally screwed I'm gonna be. Spread the pain, I say.
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| Blacaria | Jan 22 2014, 06:20 AM Post #19 |
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RP Minister, does plenty, has horrible pay.
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*pats Osa on the head* We'll come for you after you've been eaten, anyway I'm up for this. First major test for the Commonwealth and other stuff and and organisations blah blah blah. Edit: Though, I dounbt the scope Sainam would be involved in, as it forces would be preoccupied with the SME. Though I might be able to squeeze something out. It all depends on the year this whole things goes down. Edited by Blacaria, Jan 22 2014, 06:29 AM.
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| Osafune | Jan 22 2014, 06:31 AM Post #20 |
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I'm for it too, despite my bitching about being gobbled up right at the beginning. Though it would be better in my opinion if it were a players vs. players thing, not NPC vs. players. Something like Caprecia vs. Nysa, Zarocans vs. those dirty Galdresians, a reincarnated IA vs. CoN/DU... But all of those scenarios seem unlikely to happen, I guess. |
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| Lines | Jan 22 2014, 09:30 AM Post #21 |
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Might be around that period, aye. It won't be a coup; if I bother with a backstory at all, I might just play "democracy turns fascist because freedom" card--I donno, I'll think of something as I'm writing. A coup's pretty "ehhh...." though. As for the Accords, afraid they're deader than dead. Estovza is the only party that hasn't collapsed or gotten its ass kicked. Maybe I'll use the name. Though, it might just be Magilan goes off to save destroy the world on its own and other parties taking advantage of it (it's Magilan 8D). Nukes, we'll see. Maybe I will, just to have an example of "two nuclear-armed non-superpowers going to war isn't going to destroy the world, gais". Yeeeahh...new army. Magilan's population for this purpose will likely be 200-300 (maybe higher, considering the number of enemies it'd have), with its westward land. I guess we could see something akin to Anschluss, though I can't say there'd be much RP there beyond "LOOKATHOWCOOLANDLIKERLWEARE". I'll read this as "yeah, we'll participate." I'll look into a nifty target in Galdresia. Estovza's not that strong. If you get Lanlanian and/or Jandrean troops on your side, well...you'd be making cannonfodder. ;P Same as Stathelle. Plus, Zan offered you troops too (though, So'Karsa doesn't have vast armies and would likely ALSO be cannonfodder before Magilan). Iz fine. WWII had neutral parties too. ;P If this is WWII-ish, I doubt we could survive with our low-intensity conflict military forces. Hard to say ATM though. I agree that it'd be better if it were player v. player, but no one wants to get their asses kicked. Even our resident bad boy (Deltoria) reformed rather than be invaded. Anyway, I'll give a couple more days to see if anyone else is up, then go about creating some overview/starter scenario of the war. |
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| Flo | Jan 22 2014, 10:43 AM Post #22 |
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Shrek is Love. Shrek is Life.
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Ehhhh idk if we'll be joining... But I'm sure the others would be interested in at least considering the idea
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| Rommy | Jan 22 2014, 03:27 PM Post #23 |
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Well I wouldn't my ass kicked with the USR, I've had plans for awhile of making lelouch go fascist and have massive secret military buildup in the republic, and I'm in the perfect region I believe.
Edited by Rommy, Jan 22 2014, 03:31 PM.
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| Mestra | Jan 22 2014, 04:20 PM Post #24 |
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Regional Power
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Well of course depending on how this all played out, you could end up dragging most of Syntreal into it. >_> |
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| Raz | Jan 22 2014, 07:13 PM Post #25 |
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As I've stated before, doing this to acquire a UN-like body is a dumb idea, a UN-like body is a dumb idea too as it would restrict expansions beyond even Ministry mandated restrictions. If this happens, Telvan will likely throw in with the CoN, but this is not a smart idea.... |
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| Kingborough | Jan 23 2014, 03:24 AM Post #26 |
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*says a big fat no* Nysa's not getting involved in this if I have anything to do about it. Caprecia might need this type of thing, but Nysa's already had plenty of genocide and war to inspire us to want to build these things. Exhibition A: Kalonian Genocide Ikarius Reich + Genocide Thalamore Reich 1 & 2 + Genocide Canariese Genocide + Crazy Kingboroughian Oligarchy Genocide and Oppression in former Carpathian theocracy Tons of liberal religions |
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| Hadash | Jan 23 2014, 03:31 AM Post #27 |
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World Power
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What about, instead a world war provoked by a superpower, a huge genocide by a small or not-so-big-superpower, as the RP that lead to the creation of International Courts and UN-like organizations? Imagine one of the scale of Pol Pot's genocide (25% of the population) and even televised, that would cause that all nations to act and avoid such thing ever happen again, and it will only affect one or two nations. |
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| Kingborough | Jan 23 2014, 03:40 AM Post #28 |
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*sends Hadash a link to Ikariun genocide* 25 million dead .... |
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| Hadash | Jan 23 2014, 04:04 AM Post #29 |
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It happened in the past, we haven't such bodies today...and it wouldn't be realistic retconned them. So let's say a second (or third or fourth...the key word is a present one) is the one that lead people decide it. If people like the idea of a world or regional war in itself, they can do it, of course, but I'm not sure if that means a real difference. I think this idea of a genocide instead of a bigger war have some adventages such as:
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| Lomarre | Jan 23 2014, 06:48 AM Post #30 |
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I like where this is going.
I'm REALLY liking where this is going.
>____> Er. The debt and War Reparations part I'm cool with but the land part... ![]() Germany amassed a large Empire, right? We all got that figured out. What happens afterwards; Post War. World looks mildly different eh? Soviet's got some new puppets and Germany was in a massive amount of debt. I don't wanna be a fun killer for pointing this out either, but whoever occupies land may want to keep it. It'll also basically crush the economy of the losers for at least 20 years, even with help from allies. Expect to focus more on domestic issues like riots and minor lawlessness. Inflation? Look at Germany in 1927. A backpack full of money got you half a slice of bread.
Pfffhaha. The day they try to wave their hands in Caprecian affairs is the day I have a successful pay of pigs invasion in Montaria.
Edited by Lomarre, Jan 23 2014, 06:54 AM.
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