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The Third Great War; Or, Caprecia's/Oracia's WWII
Topic Started: Jan 21 2014, 03:12 PM (1,317 Views)
Lines
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Yeah...word on the street is, you guys want Oracia/Caprecia to be more like Earth, in that there's such a thing as international law and a freaken world court and humans right, and all that fun progressive humanitarian junk. I'm not particularly opposed to it--as it might come across based on some movements elsewhere--but I would like for it to happen realistically.

See, it took WWII to get RL nation-states to get their shit straight and stop being so...not-cooperative-y. This is why I'm opposed to randomly spawning things like an international court or a UN-esque: because it looks like you guys want to do it to do it (and maybe grab some prestige on the side), rather than doing it for RP...or as a consequence of RP.

That's one of the things I've been waiting on: a Nazi Germany to come around and be a big enough bad boy it changes the political spectrum and make us go "you know, it's not so bad an idea to have a greater organization to prevent this shit."

Believe it or not, I tried to do it early in Caprecia 2.0 with the East Urocan War (LAN+SAI v. modern MKE, back when it was Eridor). Thing is, Erid vanished on us--leaving the thing a flop and we just kind of skipped forward a little. The attempts to start a UN-esque failed, so I kind of just shoved King Erick IV trying to massacre Eridor civilians under the carpet.

But now there's grumbling again for a world court, and Ikarius did that Nysan anti-genocide organization thing, but...stuff and things. (Super sekreet: I may or may not have intended to slide the Commonwealth into a UN-esque role.))

So I'm thinking of just flipping the table, picking up some NPCs, and going Hitler on your asses. Why an NPC rather than Lanlania? Because WHYARENTYOUHITLERING,GODDAMMIT?

Exactly. Lines fixes tie.

So, yeah...who(mainly Caprecians)'s interested in a WWII-esque thing that spawns a UN-ripoff and all that fun humanitarian junk? Originally, I was considering having it set in the past--250s, but figure that doing it now is better, so we don't have the awkwardness of conflicting shizz.

It'd likely be centered in Zaroca, with our big bad being Magilan (I may beef it up for the purposes of this RP, including granting it some more land).

An aggressive right-winger could get elected into office (because reasons), who then proceeds to invade things. Maybe democratic Tyras or Nent's weird Asian state? Or NPCs--actually, why not all of the above? This country could have an ally in Estovza, and possibly also an Iryiiad state, just for the extra RP. Most RP would come from beating the Magilani (and its allies!) into the dirt. I may add or remove parties (victims in Galdresia and Syntreal, particularly) depending on interest. I'd like for it to include most of Caprecia's parties, because otherwise it's kinda pointless.

What's liable to be the aftermath?

I'll likely oppose--both ICly and OOCly--land concessions because ITSNOTALLABOUTTHEFRAKKINGLANDGODDAMMIT. Considering the point is to spawn a UN and world court and that kinda stuff, those would also come about. I'll probably headquarter them in NPCs (Syntara City and Nakhodka respectively, I'm thinking), because GODDAMMITITSNOTALLABOUTONESOWNCOUNTRY. Oh, and I guess there'd be debt. That's kind of a side effort of war.

Lines, this is a horrible idea!
Expand on why and maybe we can fix it.

Lines, this interferes in my nation's agenda!
Well, that's how the world works. It doesn't wait for you to put your pants on.

Lines, I don't want to RP for this! Why can't we just have the organization!
Because it should have a catalyst, goddammit.

Lines! You're dumb and I hate you!
Whatever.

Lines! ...wait, what are you asking us here, exactly?
"What's your take on actually having a RP to spawn a UN and shizz, as opposed to just doing it because?"

Oh...okay. Wait, how's Nysa fit into this?
Donno.

Oh...okay. How's the DU fit into this?
Might be a party to the war, though I think the Commonwealth might be some of the first responders.

Oh...okay. And the TA?
They might try to weasel their way, I guess. Donno either. We'll have to see in RP.
Edited by Lines, Jan 21 2014, 03:14 PM.
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Mestra
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I would actually be interested in this as long as this doesn't spawn some reset, but rather an evolution of the current way of thinking and playing, another facet of the ever expanding and developing community. The UN spawning seems fair enough in such regards, and I would likely have my own nation involved, why?, BECAUSEDAMNITIMBIGANDHAVINGNOTHINGELSETOBLOODYDO. Any way, yah!!

Oh and not to mention this would really put all of those alliances to good use, and treaties.
Edited by Mestra, Jan 21 2014, 03:20 PM.
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No, not reset--just progress. ;)

I can see Mestra being dragged in due to its agreements with Lanlania, and, as I mentioned, if non-Zarocan parties are interested, I may add more enemies to fight.
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So'Karsa will join in, I do hope it's post 325 though.
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If you want to do this you could have the enemy parties apart of the Iron Accord. It could be said that the organization was respawned and it came back much stronger (so a bunch of NPCs across the world, potentially also in Nysa). There could also be some player states that joined in on all of this. Magilan should be the leader of this following a coup with some big fascist dude taking power but with much public support. They invade surrounding lands and even threaten to disturb the balance in the Irenical. I think Magilan should also have nuclear capabilities. If not that then definitely some other WMDs.
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Where do we fit in :) if at all
Edited by Flo, Jan 21 2014, 03:38 PM.
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Think probably Magilan should get its old borders back because of the ultra-right wing dude, if that's the route we go. Except where there's player states, of course. Andohgodpleasedon'tgivehimhisoldnumbers because one billion is silly.
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lol beating the tar out of Magilan again would be neat...
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"Oh...okay. Wait, how's Nysa fit into this?
Donno."

Nice. >_>

No other comments right now.
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I feel like as Stathelle, I'll be cannonfodder :P
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Hahklallah
Jan 21 2014, 04:30 PM
I feel like as Stathelle, I'll be cannonfodder :P
Every Great war needs its cannonfodder. Just look at the Benelux. ;)
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Oertha
Jan 21 2014, 04:32 PM
Hahklallah
Jan 21 2014, 04:30 PM
I feel like as Stathelle, I'll be cannonfodder :P
Every Great war needs its cannonfodder. Just look at the Benelux. ;)
Belgium. Just. Belgium.
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I feel like as the weak country bordering Magilan, I'D be the Benelux cannonfodder. :\
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I'll go ahead and send some So'Karsan troops to help you out, mostly because it's the right thing to do, mostly.
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Yes Zan, help out your brothers in the faith!
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