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Topic Started: Jul 8 2004, 09:17 PM (21,691 Views)
Abral Narth
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Hints for getting jobs.... um... maybe your CV needs more "Power" you are probably a fine candidate for most jobs, so you just need to sell yourself.

Say you were a shop assistant, think what you did.

You didnt "sell stuff"

you "dealt with complaints" "worked with lots of people and numbers" you may hve "checked stock" "worked doing counts when cashing up" "stocked the shop"

its not about what you do but what you have learned from it, if you can tell them that you did ahuge variety of tasks requiring a load of skills, well then, it might have been daily boredom, but you learnt.

Or at least, that kind of attitude works for me.

Might be it? Maybe?
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at lantis
Nov 8 2004, 06:03 AM
what kind of work are you looking for?

Any work.

I've tried bottle shops twice, but was unsuccessful on both ocassions
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at lantis
Nov 8 2004, 10:08 AM
four or five weeks is standard in the private sector... its not too bad i suppose, but seems small in comparison with the education sector!

Teachers may get more holidays each year but that doesn't provide enough compensation for the piddling amount of money they get paid.

Teaching and (teachers) need to be treated like professionals (lawyers, architects, enginneeers, etc) and paid similar salaries. Teachers can have a tremendous influence (positive and negative) on the development of our society and yet teaching is seen very much as a second class vocation - if you can't get into something good at uni then maybe you can try teaching!

Until we start attracting some of our best and brightest into the teaching profession then the outlook is glum, despite the best efforts of those currently in the job (like our dear Westie).
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Jervis Bay
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Beautifully said RV. Teachers are the most neglected profession in our society, even more neglected than scientists. And teachers are the craftspeople that shape the future generations of Australians - neglect them, and you neglect the nation itself.

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at lantis
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Swing those sexy hips!
Bogans and Boozers
Nov 11 2004, 01:54 PM
at lantis
Nov 8 2004, 06:03 AM
what kind of work are you looking for?

Any work.

I've tried bottle shops twice, but was unsuccessful on both ocassions

Just bottle shops for a reason, or was that all there was available?

I must admit, I've only ever had the one job, all my life. My parents kept me sheltered and said I shouldn't work while I was studying (although my mother let my younger sister work) so I only got a job when I got out of school. So... I did the whole resumes and interviews thing, but only once :)

Theres gotta be something out there if you're willing to take any work!
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at lantis
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retirement villas
Nov 11 2004, 06:15 PM
at lantis
Nov 8 2004, 10:08 AM
four or five weeks is standard in the private sector... its not too bad i suppose, but seems small in comparison with the education sector!

Teachers may get more holidays each year but that doesn't provide enough compensation for the piddling amount of money they get paid.

Teaching and (teachers) need to be treated like professionals (lawyers, architects, enginneeers, etc) and paid similar salaries. Teachers can have a tremendous influence (positive and negative) on the development of our society and yet teaching is seen very much as a second class vocation - if you can't get into something good at uni then maybe you can try teaching!

Until we start attracting some of our best and brightest into the teaching profession then the outlook is glum, despite the best efforts of those currently in the job (like our dear Westie).

Actually, I really respect teachers and the work they have to put in. Its difficult because, we need to offer free education to children which is up to the government and therefore needs to be kept public, but it means that teachers' wages don't get increased to the level of those in the private sector, and according to their talent and effort.

I couldn't do the work. I've seen some of the stuff my classmates put teachers through and I can be quite wired and I'd probably have a nervous breakdown in the first week.
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They just keep bouncing :)
It's the extra stuff that gets you down...the expectation you'll be on a bunch of committees, the yard duty , the verbal abuse, the bullying, the need to always be trying to find new ways to engage the kids....kids that if you gave them a free rock concert would still compain because it wasn't long enough, or wasn't 'their' favourite band, or was on the wrong day, etc etc
Some random incidents that occured this week in my 7/8 class
1. child didn't like his lesson[pe] so decided to send text messages instead. His phone was confiscated to be returned 24 hours later [school rule...no phones]
Child kicks chair across room[excellent drop kick actually] and tells staff present 'fuck you'. Was suspended the next day. More evrbal abuse as he didn't do anything wrong in his eyes.
2. extreme bullying in grade between girls with name calling such as lesbo, fatarse, slut etc etc. Girls responsible couldn't understand why we were so concerned. One, when spoken to, told us she didn't do that, all she did was tell the others she didn't give a fuck. Was suspended for the day. Couldn't understand why she was punished !
3. two girls have physical punch up in yard over a boy!!! Both suspended...they thought it unfair!
4. Boy bad mouths coordinator and tells her to get fucked. he is suspended for two days. He threatens her that he's going to kill her and stalks her for next two periods. Teacher forced to ring the police! Kid suspended for 10 days.
Just a normal week . They're not holidays, they are R&R days and metal health recover days :P
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Sweet Jesus which school do you work at Westie?! Stuff like that happens normally in any school, but did all that happen in a normal week or on the one day? Sounds like either an underfunded public school or an overpriced we-just-want-your-money private school.
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hahaha - that sounds more like a wrestling ring than a skool!!! Teachers r way under funded and respected, sounds like u need compansation for mental and physical damage! Geez, kids r never satisfied and they dont realise the effort that goes into each class, and wot kid dusnt like PE!?!?! :o
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Gess where i went last nite?
THE EAGLES CONCERT AT SUBI, was absolutely awsum!
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Trento
Nov 12 2004, 01:27 PM
wot kid dusnt like PE!?!?!

Myself for one.

Then again, I was severely bullied duing my childhood, especially during PE as the class essentially gave students a carte blanche to be physically aggressive against me, who at the time was a 45kg weakling.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for more exercise when it comes to Australian kids, but the way PE is taught is just too much macho BS to be taken seriously.
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ahh sorry man, that sounded pretty bad. But its heaps good at our skool - its the only release and relax i get from my TEE coarse and exams! And i love sport!
:6pack: :flag:
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Thought for the day:

How can Video Ezy state in their monthly Australian publication, that they reccomend seeing the movie "The Dreamers", if they liked the movie "Ken Park"?For those who don't know, "Ken Park" is the movie that was controversally banned in Australia for it's despiction of teenage sex, nudity, etc.

This begs the questions: how can anyone watch a movie that has been likened to another movie that the majority of all Australians would never get the opportunity to see as it is banned in Australia.

Note: "Ken Park" was banned in Australia, yet it received a "R" rating in New Zealand. Apparently NZ are more liberal and progressive.
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Abral Narth
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Im impressed you managed to keep in such good humour about that. For the large part it does seem you have to deal with some very ignorant and shallow kids. Yuck.

I went to a sheltered mixed grammar school. I dont know anyone else who could leave their bag lying around for a few hours at school and only have the cleaners to worry about. It was that kind of school. that said there was a lot of dodgy stuff going on, its just the pupils were intellegent enough to not kick up too much fuss. (except the maths department who were constantly targeted teachers since forever)

Apparently its all change now, the kids are really nasty gobby little turds. Im geniunely scared about the decline of our youth. Its all the stupid media's fault, peer conditioning that makes every think its cool to be hostile, rebels with out causes and all that.

Morons.

I mean most of them rebel the whole time, but wouldnt understand a real issue to worry about if it nuked them. (well okay they would probably know about Dubya, but thats about it)

I mean my school was guilty of making us do a completely surplus course (general studies) to 80% of our universities (including mine) because they could say we got points towards uni admission even if it only counted ina few cases.

Of course that was the institution not the teachers. Well okay gradually the teachers adsorbed it, but its the only way to keep the school out of trouble....

Basically the whole system is fucked.



Oh and PE is crap. I dont enjoy sport or games all that much, and running around in little shorts at -5C and chill factor 10 winds didnt help.

The only games I enjoyed was when we finnally got to chose in year 11 and I did badminton, I got really good at it. Infact its the only sport when there were more than three guys I could beat (could probably have whipped 80% of the year).

It's a girls sport? Thats a) sexist and B) a good thing anyway.... :D
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yer, our youth is decling at an alarming rate, this generation is meant to be the first that will not live longer than their parents. And the profession that could fix this are the teachers, who are disrespected, under paid and under appreciated.
Ill maintain faithful to my PE lessons though, its a good time to relax and unwing. However not all of it is fair, eg, when people pick teams and there is always someone that is piked last.
At our school we have an anti-bullying policy thing, however it is still a problem at the school - some of the dikheds just wanna find someone weaker than themselves to make fun of, its to make themselves feel bigger - but they dont realise wot dikheds they r! I'm always the kid who isnt popular but isnt unpopular and whos word has a good impact - so im always standing up for the kids that get bullied and usually they get left alone while I'm there.
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They just keep bouncing :)
The school is a state P-12 school. It's in a very low socio-economical ares of new housing, both parents working to pay the morgage, lots of single income/single parent rentals and lots of blue collar workers.
Now don't get me wrong. My hubby was a truck driver. But he worked bloody hard and ended up owning his own cartage contract business and could buy and sell lots of people. His priorities were never education though as he knew he could make money without the necessity of higher learning or an education beyong year 9 for that matter.
Lots of the kids at my school have the same attitude. They are blinkered and narrow. Their fathers are usually very negative towards women so there is little respect for either female teachers or those of ethnicity is anglo saxon[ and we have heaps of those. There is a high ethnic population for some reason and bullying is a HUGE problem. One that tends to keep all teachers focused on way too often.
I think I earn my money daily.
ps: this all occured this week between Monday period 5 and thursday period 3
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