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chinese military threath; war
Topic Started: Aug 12 2004, 10:52 PM (936 Views)
perestroika
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The Iraq war cost little more than 1 per cent of US GDP. A similar campaign by China, if it could have launched one, would have been vastly greater proportion of GDP. So much so as to possibly put an unsupportable burden on the economy.

The point is that it will be many years before China's economy could allow it to challenge American power. This has given the Realpolitik camp an edge over the militarists. The resources are simply not there to allow them to directly challenge the US.

Meantime, there are those in Beijing who believe that a military confrontation will never be necessary because the US will fall from within, particularly if the Democrats regain both houses. This is why the regime has rooted for every Democratic candidate since Carter.

But democratic forces are also at work in China. As the country becomes more prosperous it could prove increasingly difficult for the regime to maintain its despotic grip on power. A prosperous and educated people are more likely to demand their rights, including the right to self-government, than a brow-beaten and poverty-stricken population. This is the regime's nightmare and one with a strong probability of occurring.

I believe that time is on the side of democracy. I also believe that the US should not take chances with its national security —
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kaza
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I think China hit their wall already.
First there arent enough resources in the world for China to be advanced country. (There are only 2 countries in the world who become advanced country with over 100milion population, Japan and USA)
China might have to monopoly world resources then there's some chance they can be advanced country.

2nd, there's not enough water, oil (electricity) for them to increase more industry in China.
Production of crops reduces each year (like 10%) due to lack of water or industrialization, and desertification.

About desertification, 27% of China is desert, and it increases 2460§´ each year, so to put a stop on this, Chinese govnt try to convert farm into forest.
As result, price of crops especially rice has increased alot, (compare to last year, price of Rice increased 82.1%, other crops like corns increased around 25~30%)

If anyone plans to travel China, watch out for Rice.
I wouldnt eat anything that contains rice at restaurants there.
Rice that's been stocked over 5~6 yrs can not be used for food, because it easily contains fungus called (yellow grain fungus in chinese words) that can cause cancer.

Those stocked rice uses for industrial purpose (like brewing wine etc) and it cost about 110 US $ for 1 ton, but after decolorization and some other process, if they sell it at restaurant, food stores, they can sell it at 2~3 time more. (at those stores, they mix those rice with new rice then sell it)

About Electiricity, factories in Kwangdong area, has been advised not to use electricity 2~3 days per week recently, and it caused them to move their factories to other places.
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No country is perfect, Japan had 0 resources remember. They just need to get down and work their bums off for their country!

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kaza
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Aug 14 2004, 12:13 PM
No country is perfect, Japan had 0 resources remember. They just need to get down and work their bums off for their country!

true but I mentioned above Japan and USA being only countries who become advanced country with over 100million population for a reason.
like USA, they have just over 200millions of people and they spend 1/4 of world resources, do you think there's enough resources in the world for 1.6 billion population to be advanced country?
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PLA1021
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kaza
Aug 13 2004, 10:21 AM
I think China hit their wall already.
First there arent enough resources in the world for China to be advanced country. (There are only 2 countries in the world who become advanced country with over 100milion population, Japan and USA)
China might have to monopoly world resources then there's some chance they can be advanced country.

2nd, there's not enough water, oil (electricity) for them to increase more industry in China.
Production of crops reduces each year (like 10%) due to lack of water or industrialization, and desertification.

About desertification, 27% of China is desert, and it increases 2460§´ each year, so to put a stop on this, Chinese govnt try to convert farm into forest.
As result, price of crops especially rice has increased alot, (compare to last year, price of Rice increased 82.1%, other crops like corns increased around 25~30%)

If anyone plans to travel China, watch out for Rice.
I wouldnt eat anything that contains rice at restaurants there.
Rice that's been stocked over 5~6 yrs can not be used for food, because it easily contains fungus called (yellow grain fungus in chinese words) that can cause cancer.

Those stocked rice uses for industrial purpose (like brewing wine etc) and it cost about 110 US $ for 1 ton, but after decolorization and some other process, if they sell it at restaurant, food stores, they can sell it at 2~3 time more. (at those stores, they mix those rice with new rice then sell it)

About Electiricity, factories in Kwangdong area, has been advised not to use electricity 2~3 days per week recently, and it caused them to move their factories to other places.

WTH? How long have you lived in China? I lived at central China for 13 years and i found it very suitable for living. Internet resource are sometimes inaccurate, especially on China.
The damn reason for food's price to increase is the economy is growing! people earned more money! oh you wouldnt eat rice in China? go ahead and starve, 1.3 billion people lived in healthy shape on Chinese rice and you are here telling us they are not suitable for eating.

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kaza
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Aug 16 2004, 01:13 AM

WTH? How long have you lived in China? I lived at central China for 13 years and i found it very suitable for living. Internet resource are sometimes inaccurate, especially on China.
The damn reason for food's price to increase is the economy is growing! people earned more money! oh you wouldnt eat rice in China? go ahead and starve, 1.3 billion people lived in healthy shape on Chinese rice and you are here telling us they are not suitable for eating.

I was talking about rice that's been stocked over 5+years, those(Min gong mi) should not be used for food, at least that's what ive been adviced.
Min Gong Mi(half price of regular rice) is for average worker who get paid like 20RMB a day.

About China's current water and power shortage, just look it up. thats why China is building huge Sansha dam (plan to finish by 2009)
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Again, China will soon become a democracy, no doubts about it. If you ask me, it already is.

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kaza
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Aug 26 2004, 03:22 PM
Again, China will soon become a democracy, no doubts about it. If you ask me, it already is.

What makes you think they'd go democracy?
knowing their govnt and people...mark my word, they will never go democracy, even if it means they have to kill 10+million their own chinese people.
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Since when could you predict the future? every country will eventually bevcome a democracy.Whether by succession or force. For one in a far future, whats to say there wouldn't be a world Government. A likely scenario.

If you ask me parts of China are still uncivililised, and such can cause problems initself, when politics is put into the mix.
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Believe me, China, atleast economically, is 3/4ths democracy. It is capitalist and believes in an open market with no socialist or communist tendencies. It would take some time, but they will eventually become one. In 1970, 42 nations were democracies. Now, 108 are.

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PLA1021
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China is doing pretty well after over a cetury of chaos.
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Shaan14
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yeah its doing REALLY well

did you know that if the rest of the world was to live like america we would need another 4 earths!!!!! thats alot.

the chinese are only communist in name really.

the problem with democracy is that you have to pass everything and there would be too much squabble.

that is why the U.N can never fully function efficienlty.

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EFA
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Democracey is an evolution, it evolves into what it is now, and this happens for each and every country.
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Shaan14
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well then democracy still need to be perfected but then again so does every other government type. ideologically communism is the best but it just doesnt work when the theory come into practice.

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PLA1021
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kaza
Aug 29 2004, 06:41 AM
RBTiger
Aug 26 2004, 03:22 PM
Again, China will soon become a democracy, no doubts about it. If you ask me, it already is.

What makes you think they'd go democracy?
knowing their govnt and people...mark my word, they will never go democracy, even if it means they have to kill 10+million their own chinese people.

yeah freaky eh??? i mean 10 million ppl is half the population of yer tidy tiny U.S. Japan *** licking half- divided penisula "country".

What would the U.S. gov do if a hundred thousand people surronded the Congress and brutally burned police officers to death and was about to start a riot? "democratically" allow them???

Mao's is dead. Deng is dead too. China is becoming a democracy and gaining back power and i guess that scares some of our tiny neighbours.
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PLA1021
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Nov 30 2004, 02:07 AM
Democracey is an evolution, it evolves into what it is now, and this happens for each and every country.

Amen my president Bush.
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