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| pbj_mixxa | Mar 30 2008, 09:57 PM Post #1 |
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My first matchup thread... hope it goes well. Lilica matchup: 4 - 6 favor Lilica strats: 1. Don't counter Lilica's pressure with j.A. Lilica's air normals own yours for free so don't go thinking you can get her with j.A. If Lilica's coming in on you, clash with 5B and go for 5A into air combo / air-to-ground combo / air chase combo. 2. Stay on the ground. For same reasons as above, the safest place for you is on the ground unless jumping in for oki. 3. Reversal dp. Lilica players tend to love going for oki when they get the knockdown so this is your chance to hit them with a reversal dp. Don't overdo it, though. 4. Use your GCs. GC4... GC6... it don't matter, just don't forget to GC. You can't guard a good Lilica for very long so don't give them the chance to pressure you. When caught in blockstrings, it's often a good idea to GC-dp. 5. FEAR THE WAKEUP DP! When on the advantage, always be on the lookout for Lilica's wakeup 236AB. If she hits you with it, it leads to 50% straight up so ALWAYS keep that in mind. Kamui matchup: 6 - 4 favor Heart strats: 1. CLASH THAT BITCH!!!!! Kamui can NEVER beat you in a clash so make sure you're always clashing her. When she pokes... clash... when she zones... clash... when she rushes... clash. Clash will solve just about every issue you have with Kam. Use moves like 5B, 6B, j.A, j.B and make her cry as she tries to draw you into her pace and fails horribly!. 2. Don't fear GC-j.421A. I know we are all still in the phase where we must fear Kam's GC to tenza, but it's no big deal for Heart. When you've got Kam in a blockstring and are in fear of it, do 421A/B and that'll shut down her reversal attempts. What's good is that, even if Kam doesn't GC, 421A/B still has +frames! Konoha matchup: 3 - 7 favor Konoha (Heart's worst matchup) strats: 1. 2... FRAME... JABS! This will kill you INDEFINITELY! Konoha's rushdown is second to none and Heart is not the best turtle. Don't freak out when caught in a Konoha rushdown and GC4 intelligently (not GC6 coz that shield won't save you for shit!) 2. Be careful with jump-ins. Konoha's 3B will destroy you if you try to jump-in, so try to avoid as much as you can. If you can, try to bait 3B as it has slow recovery that you can capitalize on. 3. Maximize your damage output. If the fight drags on for too long, you'll most certainly lose. Make sure that you hit her as hard as you can and keep the match short before she breaks your defense. 4. Blaze intelligently. Please, please, please remember to think before you blaze. Never forget that Konoha always has Konoha Otoshi as a punisher, so don't be careless with your blaze. Saki matchup: 6 - 4 favor Heart strats: 1. Watch the rushdown. When Saki's rushing you down, keep track of her patterns. Though Saki has a good rushdown, it's very limited so find the holes in her rushdown and capitalize. 2. Reversal dp. Saki has nothing in her arsenal that can beat your reversal dp so kill her oki attempts accordingly. 3. Clash. This is what truly sets Heart apart from Saki. Saki can't beat Heart in a clash so make sure you keep clashing until it's over. Saki hates 6B WITH A PASSION! 4. Keep Saki in the air. I know you must be thinking "WTF? Saki got j.3C... why the hell would I want to keep her in the air?!!". The answer is covered in the previous point... clash. Saki is VERY vulnerable in the air vs Heart because if she tries j.3C, clash with 5B into 5A to air combo / air-to-ground combo / air chase combo. Maori matchup: 7 - 3 favor Heart (one of Heart's best matchups) strats: 1. Patience is key. Heart's normals, both on the ground and in the air, flat-out own Maori's normals. All Maori players know this and realize that all they can do is zone you. When they start zoning, BE PATIENT. Don't randomly rush in and get sucka-punched. Watch Maori's movements and, when the perfect time comes, dash in with 5[D] into air chase combo. 2. Watch out for GC-22A. I can only say this as I've played Orka numerous times and I know he likes to do this for the trade. All I can say is, it's not hard to react to despite how quick it is. When you see/anticipate the GC, HC right into her face for a free combo while nee-san cries over completely missing her target and letting Maori eat a 40%! 3. NEVER BLAZE IN THE AIR!!! If you do Maori will just crush you with 623A right into a free nee-san loop. Otherwise, she'll just hit you with a very painful 421AB. When caught in a nee-san loop, watch for when she goes for j.C-(land)5B and blaze right before 5B if you must. This way, if she's dumb enough to try 421AB (lol, Orka), you can backdash the first hit, jump over the second and get a free 50-60% combo while she tries to recover. ... I'll keep updating as I learn more matchups. |
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| Necrosis | Apr 1 2008, 04:15 AM Post #2 |
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<3 I can't remember if I grabbed your blaze when we played, otherwise I'd mention that. >> |
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| GreyFox | Apr 1 2008, 11:01 PM Post #3 |
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i want to see the matchup between kira and heart xD |
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| pbj_mixxa | Apr 1 2008, 11:13 PM Post #4 |
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Haven't played any good Kiras so I don't have much to say. The ones I have played were... well... let's just say I didn't learn anything. @Necrosis: I think you grabbed my blaze a few times... that was till I learned how to "blaze intelligently"! |
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| GreyFox | Apr 2 2008, 05:20 AM Post #5 |
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ill have to play you come willvo08 give or take if im able to go this time -.- |
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| SkyKing | Apr 3 2008, 10:13 PM Post #6 |
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The Drill That Pierces the Heavens
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Awesome stuff, guys! Time to implement this stuff to my Heart that will more than likely be my back-up to Saki. I want to specifically know more about her match-up against Fiona since there are a lot of Fiona players here in SA. I know my Saki can take her on, but I want to see if Heart has a much favorable game. |
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| GreyFox | Apr 3 2008, 11:13 PM Post #7 |
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try against Nems fiona....he has a really good one and prolly the best in SA right now |
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| pbj_mixxa | Apr 4 2008, 04:42 AM Post #8 |
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This info is all I have accumulated so far. I haven't played any of the other chars much (except for meta's Liese... but I forgot what I learned from that one! =D) so I don't have any info on those matchups. All I know about Fiona is that she outreaches you so it's best to go for a clash when within her reach and outside yours. Her moves are slow and have low priority (as opposed to Heart's incredibly high priority) so the only way she can win is by pokes (like 2B, 2C, 5B, j.2C, j.B ), so watch out for those. That aside, it should be a fairly easy win (I'd estimate a 7-3 matchup). ... and don't forget about her 6B overhead! It's pretty quick and annoying, so keep a look out for that as well. Let's just hope I can find some good comp with the other chars at DBQ. I'll update if I do. [EDIT] Yeah, Saki has an easier time against Fiona, by comparison, due to her mean rushdown. |
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| Tiggy | Apr 5 2008, 04:41 AM Post #9 |
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Trying to rep the C/O in AH...
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Good stuff pbj! I want to level up my Heart now for some reason..... Against Liese, your main objectives are: 1) GC/Arcana Blaze intelligently against Liese lockdowns 2) 2A/2B the crap out of the doll; clash frames with 5A, 5B, and 6B are ok ideas against Liese rushdowns, but not always recommended (thanks to the doll's crazy attacks) This is just some information compiled from watching many many YouTube videos, not my own personal experience. Hope it helps, and is actually somewhat accurate. |
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