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| Ten Stars | 30 Mar 2010, 01:30 Post #1 |
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Cease and Desist Order for Trial Against Govindia 1. Noting that Govindia has not violated any laws in AWP, 2. Noting that any laws that are not written are not laws, 3. Noting that, while Govindia may be annoying at times, so have been others in this region, 4. Noting that, if Govindia is going to be banned for being annoying, then everyone else who has been annoying in this region must be legally banned by precedent, 5. Whereas Govindia has not spoken or said much lately in the past few weeks due tol RL issues, 6. The Senate of 00000 A World Power hereby issues to the prosecuting authorities and plaintiffs who have brought a case against Govindia, a formal order, to cease and desist their prosecution against Govindia |
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| AmericaXLI | 30 Mar 2010, 03:00 Post #2 |
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This is a big nay for me, the senate interfering with the AWP justice system is wrong and corrupt, I strongly oppose this. |
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| Turlmanistan | 30 Mar 2010, 05:09 Post #3 |
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well... I look at it this way... The RA can prosecute anyone he wants if people complain. We don't have a set of laws, so really right now, the decisions from court cases make up the laws. There was also a 13-4 vote infavor of banning him, and the senate decided to give him a day in court. However, if the RA can prosecute anyone, who will police the police? I should think things like pardons, and cease and decist orders should come from the senate body as a result as a vote instead of from one individual. As for this particular case, you could almost say what he was doing was harassment... that's a crime in RL, and I think one that's very applicable here, and should be a crime here. He wasn't JUST annoying, he would pester, wouldn't listen or acknowledge anyone's points but his own, accept no for an answer, when someone wouldn't make him MoD or MoFA he claimed prejudice or some other weird out of the blue excuse, and when push came to shove, a million other people were to blame. I don't think the senate should punt him, I think the case in the courts is the right course of action. I get it if you're one of the few he was friends with around here, with it tough to see a friend go through this, but when I was delegate, and didn't support him for MoFA after talking to our closest biggest ally's and they said they wouldn't work with him and it would affect diplomatic ties, he blamed them as opposed to trying to work his issues out with other regions. And further more he said if they dumped us, then that's fine. He was willing to destroy the work of our region so he'd be a minister. Something about him never seemed right. you want this cease and decist order, I doubt it'll pass, I am curious why you withdrew your offer to defend him? |
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| Liberty987 | 30 Mar 2010, 17:09 Post #4 |
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I think we are all using Gov as a scapegoat for our problems, however I do feel it is wrong to get involved, the case came up due to us interfering and saying we want the courts to ban him, so Amex it would be hypocritical of all to turn around and say that./ I was one of the anti Govs however I have changed my mind, feeling I was using him as a scapegoat so AYE when it comes up to vote. |
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| Numero Capitan | 30 Mar 2010, 19:36 Post #5 |
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What a ridiculous proposition, we shouldn't be the judges of our court system, the judges should be. Considering there is no precedent for this the only body that can declare such an act legal is the courts anyway, so whats the point. |
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| Liberty987 | 30 Mar 2010, 19:39 Post #6 |
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Wasn't it us who gave this case to the courts, as I seem to remember, it was one of the first things I did and I have now felt we shouldn't have pushed it into the courts, however it is there, I agree, and probably would have come up without our interference and that maybe actually we should maybe leave it there, but I am against the trial, just against the senate taking it out of the courts, so I agree with you Numero. |
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| Turlmanistan | 30 Mar 2010, 20:20 Post #7 |
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I don't think Govindia's issue ever should have come up in the senate in the first place quite frankly... It should have started in the courts right from the beginning. All I think the senate SHOULD have been able to do in this case was reccomend to the RA that he be prosecuted. I think there's a place for the senate to, like I said, pardon someone and issue cease and decist orders. If we don't have that, then who will police the police? I have no problem with someone seeking this type of action, and I think it should be allowed to proceed, I personally as it stands now am against supporting this particular individual, but I don't see any reason why this type of legislation should be halted just because we have the court system. |
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| Numero Capitan | 30 Mar 2010, 22:27 Post #8 |
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IF theres no reason for him to be banned then the courts won't ban him, I don't know why the Senate is worried about it. If they don't trust the judgement of any of our judges then feel free to call a vote of no confidence in them. |
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| Turlmanistan | 30 Mar 2010, 23:23 Post #9 |
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I agree with Numero on what SHOULD play out, I still recognize this as valid, but I think this is in the courts, lets leave it there. If he's guilty and you don't like it, lets vote on a pardon at that time if you still think its warranted, if he's found not guilty, then this is all a non issue. |
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| Neasmyrna | 31 Mar 2010, 18:03 Post #10 |
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| Wibblefeet | 1 Apr 2010, 21:40 Post #11 |
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I am not quite sure why the prior senate had the vote on the issue - I think it had to do with using the courts to ban someone, and did they have that authority. I believe the issue is best left in the courts right now. If the crime he's convicted of is "being annoying", then I trust the courts will issue an approriate sentence. If the Senate has issues with the charges/verdict/punishment imposed by the courts WHEN THE CASE IS FINISHED, we should then revisit the issues mentioned above in theis thread. AT THE MOMENT, I believe the issue is IN the courts, and the Senate has no authority to directly interfere with a trial in progress. |
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| Neanbear | 1 Apr 2010, 23:15 Post #12 |
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I believe the case was sent to the courts to stop Gov from whining basically. |
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