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Defense Council
Topic Started: 25 Mar 2010, 23:35 (165 Views)
Fatalem
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I suggest to the Senate that they pass a bill establishing a position of public defense attorney. That way there is someone to defend people who don't want to defend themselves or can not find someone to do it.
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Well I'm sure Biain will have something to say about this but yeah, this seems only fair, as the RA will most likely be the prosecuting attorney.
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I'd like to see it taken on as an initiative by citizens personally
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Public Defender means defending, to the best of your ability, persons you might never willingly associate with; against charges of which you might believe them worthy of punishment.

This is NOT something that most people would willingly take on. If established, it should be an elected or appointed position, from willing candidates.
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agreed, and only used when no one is willing to step up and do it voluntarily.

Another solution would be for the Senate to give the Judges the right to pick someone for the defense so there is not such a great delay.
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Well the delay here may be due to Greek not re-masking Gov properly (I'll go check that myself after posting this). I would personally be against this as I think if someone cannot find someone to defend them then they should have to defend themselves (also we should not force someone to accept someone as their defense council just because they don't reply).

As judges I think we should impose a time limit on this, namely that Gov has 72 hours from now to appoint a defense council otherwise we will assume he is defending himself (I have seen him on the forum so know he is checking things). If he refuses to defend himself against the charges then tah would in my mind be fairly indicative that they are true.
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Biain the First,Sep 15 2009
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Constitution to me has always meant higher hit points :P

BEST POST EVER FOR 2009!
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First off, I haven't been charged with anything, so I don't know what I would be defending myself against.

Secondly, I haven't violated any laws in AWP.

Thirdly, I have been inactive the past two weeks because of RL medical and family issues. I've only sparsely posted things here and there but RL has taken up a good portion of my time, other than that, I just leave this tab hanging in my firefox, so even if I may be on the forum I'm not always actively at the computer. If you really want to know what RL activities I've been doing that prevented me from getting involved I'd be more than willing to go into detail if you still need it.

Fourthly, I was told I would be provided a defence attorney / defence council, so yes, should this case go forward, I would like one as I was promised.
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I believe current senate laws are to provide a lawyer free of charge. Infact, I believe Tenny has stepped up offering to support Govindia as his legal council.
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First off, I haven't been charged with anything, so I don't know what I would be defending myself against.

Secondly, I haven't violated any laws in AWP.

Thirdly, I have been inactive the past two weeks because of RL medical and family issues. I've only sparsely posted things here and there but RL has taken up a good portion of my time, other than that, I just leave this tab hanging in my firefox, so even if I may be on the forum I'm not always actively at the computer. If you really want to know what RL activities I've been doing that prevented me from getting involved I'd be more than willing to go into detail if you still need it.

Fourthly, I was told I would be provided a defence attorney / defence council, so yes, should this case go forward, I would like one as I was promised.

Why are you posting this in this topic, its nothing to do with your trial, nor is it the right court room...
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Because Biain had asked me to respond if you read earlier in thsi thread.
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Because Biain had asked me to respond if you read earlier in thsi thread.

He used an example for his general point about how we arrange these matters. Its nothing to do with your trial and he never asked you to respond.
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No...

sorry, I didn't realize you edited your post in the RA's office...
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Its a interesting idea, Legal Aid is a necessity in a civilised society, but i have to say, we'd need the first candidate to come forward to do this. There is no point creating a paper position with no candidate to create the position. This person would have drive and the flair to set up there office with minimal intervention from the senate. They get to shape the position and therefore assist future office holders.

Thats how secretary of senate finally worked; its worth trying again
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I say no to this. If someone can't find someone to represent themselves, they may get stuck with someone under this, who don't want to help the person and could end up just throwing the case.
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Mar 27 2010, 06:08 AM
I say no to this. If someone can't find someone to represent themselves, they may get stuck with someone under this, who don't want to help the person and could end up just throwing the case.

it pains me emensely to say this...

but I agree with AV.

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Someone who literally has no care in the world about what anyone's done, someone who just want's to fight the system. Wow, the more and more I think about it, someone like Ranholn would be perfect for this.
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