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Repeal Minister of Politics Economy and Culture
Topic Started: 14 Mar 2010, 22:58 (181 Views)
Turlmanistan
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Ok, I have seen Numero, Wibble, and Nean, that have posted that they don't see the need for this position. Neas has come forward stating that he didn't think this should be a minister's position.

I vote to repeal the passing of creating the position, until the FULL senate has a chance to weigh in.
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since no one has raise an issue with this, or any objection, I bring this to a vote.

I vote AYE to repeal the MoPEC position.
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Could you post the original resolution in here plz?

thanks...

I think it just needs to be edited. We can edit and pass it again... or repeal and make a new one...
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Nay until any proper discussion is had.
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Mar 18 2010, 09:56 AM
Nay until any proper discussion is had.

If you don't feel like following the legislation that you write, then don't bother writing any liberty. Your vote register's as a nay and it stands unless this gets a second vote...

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Introduction
The new ministry will be, from hence forward, referred to as the Ministry of Politics, Culture and the Economy, or abbreviated to MinPCE, the minister who is head of the above ministry will be known as the Executive Minister of the Ministry of Politics, Culture and the Economy, or, in short Minister of Politics, Culture and Economics, and abbreviated MPCE.

Main Body:
Head 1: The New Ministry will gain its own offices.
Article 1: The ministry will be in charge of taking in all requests for new businesses, Parties and proposals for Cultural Events.
Article 2: The ministry will be in charge of running the Regional Reserve and Regional Reserve Bank.
Article 3: The Ministry will be in charge of closing inactive businesses.
Article 4: The Ministry will be in charge of setting the amount of money gained per post.
Article 5: The Ministry will be given the opportunity to use funds from the Regional Reserve to create jobs in the Reserve, Ministry or instigate a pay scale in the senate.
Article 6: The Ministry will be in charge of organising and running Cultural Events.
Article 7: The Ministry will be in charge of the herald of The Public Square, and can impeech the herald subject to an impeechment vote in The Public Square.
Head 2: The Ministry will have an Executive who will run the Regional Reserve.
Article 1: He can employ people in all departments of the region that are State run/owned.
Article 2: He will be able to fire people from his ministry or the Regional Reserve however must give reason.
Article 3: He will be in charge of his ministry and will be in charge of the success of the department and will take the blame at the failures of it.
Article 4: These are the following duties he will perform.
Economy:
To ensure that the economy is well maintained and fluent.
To run the Regional Reserve in the most effective way possible.
To keep track of a fluent chares and dividend programme.
To ensure that all businesses are active and to foresee the closure of non-active businesses.
To keep track of the Immigration Stock.

Culture:
To ensure that the culture of AWP moving and is adapted constantly.
To instigate and envisage new and old cultural events and days.
To advertise the culture of the region in foreign places.
To run the non-political debate room and adapt the debates and come up with ideas for debates.

Politics:
To create a more active political part of the region.
To organise debates between the parties in the Debate Area.
To keep the political parties active and encourage people to join them.
To promote political reform.
To encourage people to participate in the senate.
To organise debates in the senate.
To vote and discuss on all proposals in the senate.

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This is the bill we should repeal. It wasn't discussed by every member of the region, and for those who did weigh in, a sizeable chunk thought this shouldn't be a minister's position. If that's the case, I say we repeal now before wasting efforts creating forums for a position that's generally not supported, and go back to the drawing board and come back with something we can all think would be benefitial.
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Well if you guys go with that I'll probably bring in most of the stuff I talked about as an admin (provide it doesn't go against any current laws or legislation) as its stuff that are in part admin tasks anyway.

I won't be doing stuff like introducing wages etc, but might reduce the payment per post, try and introduce a shop/battle system, allow people to nominate feature weeks/months for special occasions and such like.
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Constitution to me has always meant higher hit points :P

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I may have reopened the vote if I thought so.


As it happened this should be on hiatus until the other part voting AYE or NAY to Biain is through,if people don't want it they can vote nay to Biain.
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Mar 19 2010, 05:27 AM
Well if you guys go with that I'll probably bring in most of the stuff I talked about as an admin (provide it doesn't go against any current laws or legislation) as its stuff that are in part admin tasks anyway.

I won't be doing stuff like introducing wages etc, but might reduce the payment per post, try and introduce a shop/battle system, allow people to nominate feature weeks/months for special occasions and such like.

you can do it as Vice Delegate...
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Aye. I'm not necessarily against the position I just believe it needs to be edited then re proposed.
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This vote is strictly if the new position should be repealed? Nay.

I *do* believe the position should be reviewed, but as it exists, and apparently has a candidate, let it stand for now.

I also think we very seriously need to fill the Secretary of the Senate position, to moderate these discussions and figure out what we're voting on, and when.
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yes. It's if the position should be repealed. By voting Nay, you almost certainly just guaranteed it won't be reviewed, changed or if needed eliminated.
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SHould also add, we HAVEN'T filled the position. The vote for Biain died on the floor with no quarem, and the vote was 1 Aye, 1 Nay, and 5 Abstains. So right now we have a position, with no candidate.
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Mar 22 2010, 10:25 AM
SHould also add, we HAVEN'T filled the position. The vote for Biain died on the floor with no quarem, and the vote was 1 Aye, 1 Nay, and 5 Abstains. So right now we have a position, with no candidate.

That's not new around here.

And if we can't agree to fill it, perhaps we'll eventually consider WHY the senate can't agree on it? That was my goal when I cast my vote the wayI did.
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exactly the reason why we should repeal this until we can get it right? I am leery about keeping a position not all are in agreement in vacant...
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