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Minister of Politics, Economy and Culture; Candidates for this position
Topic Started: 12 Mar 2010, 15:32 (357 Views)
Turlmanistan
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Who are the candidates for this position, lets discuss the people who put their names forward, I have put my name forward, Biain has also been discussed, is there anyone else to consider.
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I repeat... are there any discussions surrounding candidates?
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Not really, the only problem is with you Turk as you already hold your senator position, I think you would have to give that up.
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I mentioned when I threw my hat in, that if the senate felt it was in the best ineterest and the constituents in the east felt it was in their best interest, I'd give up my seat for a by election.

Should point out, A, it wouldn't be the first duplicate role held in the past in regards to senator an Minister, and B, it'd be the safe bet if people were Leery about this position being in the senate, as I am already in the senate.
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I think we have had too many inactive senators in the past who have held double roles. I think it would be best if you were to have a by election, however I do think that it would be best with Biain, although I would suspect you would be great with politics I feel Biain beats you heavily in economics and all your great politics ideas can be easily chaneled through politics.
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Liberty987
Mar 13 2010, 11:24 AM
I think we have had too many inactive senators in the past who have held double roles.

To my knowledge the only one we've ever had is Numero and that was over two years ago before most of us were even around.
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I have meant before, not now, and really not really with double roles, I just mean e have had some inactive senators who are hard to remove due to being elected, so I don't like the idea of doubling, except minister of defence and foreign affairs.
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Mar 13 2010, 09:24 AM
I feel Biain beats you heavily in economics...

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Care to elaborate a little bit? The only economics that has ever been discussed in the senate was either the "we need to revamp and restore the economy" or "we need to continue the immigration shares."

Any economic experiance that's relevent to here has been failure, and that's something I'd argue Biain nor myself or anyone else around here except for neas have really dabbled in to an extended detail.

how is it hard to removed a minister title from someone who's also a senator? sure you're not punting them from the senate, you're removing their responsibilities, and that is the point.
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He is experienced in economics, IE I think its his job, I think, I may be wrong if so not a good way to start an argument :P

No I mean its hard to remove a senator, I wasn't really talking about ministers and senators, just senators, ministers as well or not. I meant that if we have had inactive senators it is bad to have two positions with one person if they cite unexpectedly. I would say that for anyone.
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yeah... soo... how is an inactive senator in any way related to a dual role minister's position...
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It means he has two lots of work loads...

If he becomes inactive it means two roles need to be replaced...
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I still don't see a need for this position personally
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I don't think there is ANY debate needed on this topic, it is a simple vote, like the Judges, we don't need to debate about the two candidates.


So can we just vote, seems simple enough.

AYE to Biain.

Sorry Turl but I feel he already has the Admin powers to help him, and he has a lot of experience in economics.
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Mar 13 2010, 04:29 PM
I still don't see a need for this position personally

I tend to agree, but the position, as per the other thread, HAS been created. As such, I suppose we should fill it.

With no other candidates having informed anyone of their desire for the post, I vote AYE - let's move to a vote on B vs T.
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NO you have to pick one of the candidates Wibble.
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No, he abstained.

And my district voted BIAIN.
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You edited your post! The one I was responding to by you had AYE, and NOTHING beyond that.

Dirty pool, sir - that's a darn evil trick.

Very well, I vote for Turl. he has expressed ideas on what to do with the economy. If Biain has expressed any solutions for our current lack-of-economy, I haven't heard of them. So, I'll go with someone who has a plan.
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No, I am pretty sure it said abstain, otherwise it would have an edit by line.

And turl only has outlined them really, but yeah ok he has said roughly what he wants to do.
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I have to abstain.
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Can we open a thread in the district assemblies for both candidates to post how they are qualified for the job? Mainly because I don't believe biain has had the opportunity to say how he qualified for this position.
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He can't be this and the VD. In the event Lib gets impeeched, leaves, or whatever else causes the VD to become Delegate, he can't be Delegate and Minister of PEC, we'll need a new candidate. I am also going to withdrawing my name for this.
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Turl makes a good point but if he withdraws from the race then I suppose we can't have anyone but Biain, however if h doesn't I think we can carry on voting with the above in mind.

Turl if you resign as senator and go through with this and let Biain be senator, noting he probably wont have opposition, the I will vote Turl

If you don't Biain.

I don't think I can really win in this situation without stabbing two people in the back here, which is gonna piss someone off, but abstaining will piss two people off.
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Mar 14 2010, 12:10 AM
AYE to Biain.

Sorry Turl but I feel he already has the Admin powers to help him, and he has a lot of experience in economics.

you already voted. I am not resigning as senator. If Biain wants to be senator, he can win the election next time.
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I can change my vote turl, both of you helped me a lot and it took me a long time to come to that decision, I decided I made the wrong choice, I think Biain will be better as senator than in the new ministry. You can have the job if you want it, and everyone else agrees. I also accept I was wrong and I shouldn't have done that.
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The senate guidelines you passed prevent you from changing your vote. Liberty's vote for Biain stands...
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